2024 U.S. Presidential General Election Thread

[the cac mamba]

lotta fukkery this week super tuesday, then SOTU thursday

 

[nyknick]

it's what neoliberals do, they help the GOP push this country further right.

Last week 60 Minutes ran a story about migrant crossings that was something you'd expect to see on OANN. This week Trump was on TV listing out names of women killed by immigrants.

Democrats helped normalize that and only thing they got out of it was an opportunity to call out hypocrisy.

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Notice he came out of no where posting in here.. Dude def using an alias…

The ban bet offer is still on the table.

You’re trash at trolling

If this isn't the perfect summation of that tweet. Did he ruin your fun by being substantive instead of trolling?

Remember all that shyt about electability liberals were spouting about Biden? Now with the data pointing in a different direction all that shyt goes out the window. Not that it was anything more than a talking point before, but it again shows that when talking about real issues, they don't want to hear it if it ruins their fun. None of that shyt matters to them.

Everybody already knows polls are flawed, are not a perfect representation, etc. It's still a useful tool for tracking the general feelings of the public. There's a reason everyone involved in politics still pays attention to the polling, even if it is not a 100% prediction of outcomes. If you guys know a better way than polling, then why isn't this imaginary better way the standard? Why do political campaigns still use poll data to form strategy?

You guys don't give a shyt about anything substantive. You just want the trolling and drama, and to root for your team. As they say, scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

 

[Pressure]

Last week 60 Minutes ran a story about migrant crossings that was something you'd expect to see on OANN. This week Trump was on TV listing out names of women killed by immigrants.

Democrats helped normalize that and only thing they got out of it was an opportunity to call out hypocrisy.

Since we're talking polling. American sentiment on immigration hasn't shifted much.

It's just that Americans want don't want increased immigration levels.

Immigration

In your view, should immigration be kept at its present level, increased or decreased? On the whole, do you think immigration is a good thing or a bad thing for this country today?

news.gallup.com

No one wants open borders. Just like folks don't like open air drug markets and mass homelessness in the streets.

Leftist proposals gonna have to address that reality politically outside of just making "moral" arguments about why folks should just give it more time or their anecdotal experiences don't matter.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

@FAH1223 you still can’t explain the polling from the actually election results from literally the last 5 elections but I guess these polls are accurate this time around right?

 

[Payday23]

are any of the "biden is funding a genocide" posters calling for Hamas to give the hostages back?

I'm pretty sure you can hate both Hamas and how Biden has allowed thousands of people to be slaughtered by providing the weapons and propaganda to carry it out.

 

[Outlaw]

The ban bet offer is still on the table.

If this isn't the perfect summation of that tweet. Did he ruin your fun by being substantive instead of trolling?

Remember all that shyt about electability liberals were spouting about Biden? Now with the data pointing in a different direction all that shyt goes out the window. Not that it was anything more than a talking point before, but it again shows that when talking about real issues, they don't want to hear it if it ruins their fun. None of that shyt matters to them.

Everybody already knows polls are flawed, are not a perfect representation, etc. It's still a useful tool for tracking the general feelings of the public. There's a reason everyone involved in politics still pays attention to the polling, even if it is not a 100% prediction of outcomes. If you guys know a better way than polling, then why isn't this imaginary better way the standard? Why do political campaigns still use poll data to form strategy?

You guys don't give a shyt about anything substantive. You just want the trolling and drama, and to root for your team. As they say, scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

That tweet was pure trolling. Wtf in that tweet was substantive?

 

[Pressure]

I'm pretty sure you can hate both Hamas and how Biden has allowed thousands of people to be slaughtered by providing the weapons and propaganda to carry it out.

Did Biden put them in this situation?

 

[Payday23]

You lefties aren’t grounded in reality. Biden has governed in the most left wing manner since FDR. Democrats have progressively been going to the left.

Being soft on illegal immigrant and defunding the police is not what independents want.

What are the most progressive policies you speak of?

Are you talking about the LGBT executive orders?

The student loans he knew Republicans were going to block?

Has he gotten Congress to increase minimum wage or hold corporations accountable?

What about women's health and abortion?

He's the most "progressive" modern president in theory but in reality he's not. It's just propaganda

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

What are the most progressive policies you speak of?

Are you talking about the LGBT executive orders?

The student loans he knew Republicans were going to block?

Has he gotten Congress to increase minimum wage or hold corporations accountable?

What about women's health and abortion?

He's the most "progressive" modern president in theory but in reality he's not. It's just propaganda

To his credit, other than when he stepped in front of railway workers, he's been pretty strong on labor.

 

[Outlaw]

What are the most progressive policies you speak of?

Are you talking about the LGBT executive orders?

The student loans he knew Republicans were going to block?

Has he gotten Congress to increase minimum wage or hold corporations accountable?

What about women's health and abortion?

He's the most "progressive" modern president in theory but in reality he's not. It's just propaganda

Which president has been more progressive than Biden in the past 40 years?

 

[FAH1223]

@FAH1223 you still can’t explain the polling from the actually election results from literally the last 5 elections but I guess these polls are accurate this time around right?

5 elections? The specials?

 

[Payday23]

The crazy thing with all these federal trial delays for Trump is if he wins in November but is convicted sometime before inauguration in 2025. I wonder what happens then? Surely Trump would try to pardon himself

 

[Payday23]

Which president has been more progressive than Biden in the past 40 years?

What progressive policies has Biden implemented? You guys keep claim he's progressive but all I've seen is a moderate doing moderate actions. I swear some of you guys are like PlayStation plus members when they take something away and then bring it back as a "new feature" and celebrate it as progress. SMH. Again, what progressive policies has Biden implemented?

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

5 elections? The specials?

All of them