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88m3

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They could appeal to the Supreme Court and say the case cannot move forward because he's the President. The Supreme Court would agree and say that any sentencing would have to be enforced after he leaves office.

So then you would have Trump trying to stay in office to avoid possibly being sentenced to jail or home confinement.
I hear you man maybe we're going to have to just grit our teeth and vote for Biden?
 

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The crazy thing with all these federal trial delays for Trump is if he wins in November but is convicted sometime before inauguration in 2025. I wonder what happens then? Surely Trump would try to pardon himself

There’s no way Trump becomes president again and doesn’t pardon himself. I think it’s the key reason he’s running frankly
 

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then the media would have crucified him as soft on terror and a betrayer of our allies. He would have lost never trumpers, some independents and pro Israel democrats
The media is going to blame him regardless. Fukk them
 

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more light trolling.

You can’t deny the fact that we need increased funding for border patrol agents, more funding for technology based initiatives that prevent illegal border crossings, and the ability to fix the unquestionably broken and inefficient asylum system.
Open borders and open air drug market? Your post didn't deserve a serious answer. You're just parroting Republican talking points because Democrats copy and pasted Republican immigration plan.

We already had an inefficient asylum system which Republicans love because it's a wedge issue and provides cheap undocumented labor. Instead of attempting to remedy that or at least get ahead on messaging Biden just continued Trump/Stephen Miller immigration policies, same way he continued Trump/Kushner Middle East policies.

Biden continued with Trump's Title 42. He continued Trump's Chinese visa ban (in 2016 2.2 million temporary visas were granted to Chinese citizens in 2022 only 160,000 were granted). Continued Trump's increased sanctions on Venezuela, lifted briefly and returned again last month, and protected status for Venezuelan citizens. Created a broken app to stop people from seeking asylum, created a rule that people have to seek asylum from countries they pass through before getting to US. Biden did all that shyt just for people to still end up thinking that he's too liberal on immigration.

And I won't even get started on the way Biden's dealt with, or rather not dealt with, states that are shipping out immigrants to across the US.
 

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Retaliation is one thing. Systemic ethnic cleansing and providing the weapons and cover to do it is another. If Biden loses Michigan because Muslims stay home it's his own fault. You're a clown who pigeon holes points and argues in bad faith. No one's calling Israel out for retaliation against Hamas. It's the bombing of the refugee camps, hospitals, and evacuation areas that have killed thousands. Also while Israel publicly calls for the extermination of a people while it's own citizens steal people's lands and homes. You're no different than a Nazi sympathizer.
Voting for a us president because of what’s happening in the Middle East is the height of delusion
there is plenty of middle ground on the response though. "supporting allies" is never a yes/no question - israel is going to retaliate because they had to. zero timetables, conditions on support, review of the failures within IDF that let it happen, along with objectively horrible kill-em-alls from israeli gov reps, etc should've been deliberately addressed instead of essentially cheering it on with the dead babies moments and actively twisting the UN security council's purpose against itself

at the end of the day, biden's admin was well aware of how this would impact their base and they knew it immediately when long-time administrators quit citing causes anyone could see. hell, the main reason they're easing back now isn't because of a battlefield situation changing but because of battleground states. at the same time, the fact there's no legitimate photo ops of us forces and idf hand in hand speaks volumes too.

when people get reductive about it all... you really can't even size this up though.
You’re overrating how many people that actually vote care about what’s going on in the Middle East
 

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Voting for a us president because of what’s happening in the Middle East is the height of delusion

You’re overrating how many people that actually vote care about what’s going on in the Middle East

Exactly and it’s no coincidence VP Harris called on a cease fire, The dude running against Netanyahu is leading big and Netanyahu is hugely unpopular… White House already know they about to get Netanyahu up out the paint
 

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fukking Biden man. He did a bunch of great things that threw it all away with his embrace support of a genocidal maniac. :snoop:

He’s out here making LBJ mistakes. It’s so deflating to those who voted for him but yet have a conscience and consistency of thought and morality. fukking Biden breh.

He better heed the words of the only guy in the media who has been right about every election cycle going back to 2016 and change course.

 

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fukking Biden man. He did a bunch of great things that threw it all away with his embrace support of a genocidal maniac. :snoop:

He’s out here making LBJ mistakes. It’s so deflating to those who voted for him but yet have a conscience and consistency of thought and morality. fukking Biden breh.

He better heed the words of the only guy in the media who has been right about every election cycle going back to 2016 and change course.


In some parallel universe a more conservative voter who voted for Biden would be saying the same thing but opposite. fukking Biden, he did some great things but he didn’t support Israel as much as he could when terrorist attacked.

Biden is in a lose lose situation here.

No matter how he handled the tragedy he was going to turn off a portion of his collation
 

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In some parallel universe a more conservative voter who voted for Biden would be saying the same thing but opposite. fukking Biden, he did some great things but he didn’t support Israel as much as he could when terrorist attacked.

Biden is in a lose lose situation here.

No matter how he handled the tragedy he was going to turn off a portion of his collation

Reading your simple minded hypotheticals is painful. Stop, you sound like an idiot.

In the real world, the leader of the liberal party is in full support of a genocidal right wing authoritarian lunatic which has resulted in the slaughter of 30,000 civilians and displacement of millions.
 

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Reading your simple minded hypotheticals is painful. Stop, you sound like an idiot.

In the real world, the leader of the liberal party is in full support of a genocidal right wing authoritarian lunatic which has resulted in the slaughter of 30,000 civilians and displacement of millions.
You can’t see outside of your own perspective yet I’m the idiot. Ok bro

Talk to people who aren’t terminally online in the real world and see how they view the situation. Biden needs those voters too
 

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fukking Biden man. He did a bunch of great things that threw it all away with his embrace support of a genocidal maniac. :snoop:

He’s out here making LBJ mistakes. It’s so deflating to those who voted for him but yet have a conscience and consistency of thought and morality. fukking Biden breh.

He better heed the words of the only guy in the media who has been right about every election cycle going back to 2016 and change course.


This is why I can’t take this fat cac serious… So he thinks the war in Gaza trumps any rights u.s citizens have that been slowly stripped away? The war in Gaza is more important than women’s reproductive rights getting bushed here in America? Bu bu bu Michigan even tho Biden has been in the state religiously supporting the major automotive unions and bringing back jobs to the state..

Has that fat cac done anything for Flint since leaving? I mean one iota? Anything?

But we gotta sit here and listen to him act like it’s a-rab voters who will decide Michigan? Black folk always decided Michigan whether they stayed home or turned out in droves
 

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This is why I can’t take this fat cac serious… So he thinks the war in Gaza trumps any rights u.s citizens have that been slowly stripped away? The war in Gaza is more important than women’s reproductive rights getting bushed here in America? Bu bu bu Michigan even tho Biden has been in the state religiously supporting the major automotive unions and bringing back jobs to the state..

Has that fat cac done anything for Flint since leaving? I mean one iota? Anything?

But we gotta sit here and listen to him act like it’s a-rab voters who will decide Michigan? Black folk always decided Michigan whether they stayed home or turned out in droves

Now I know you didn’t listen to the clip if that’s your take away.
 
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