Presidents now have immunity for "Official Acts". Democrats need to create an official act to jail the orange fukk.

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:dead: I read that "still not voting" as if the breh in the gif actually said it
 

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A lot of people don't vote though. If you are only concerned about the presidential election you are focusing on the end of the process.
I really don't know how the explain it clearly. Voting alone won't change shyt. It'll only delay problems. We have a systemic issue. Solely blaming voters ignore the real discussions needed.
 

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He doesn't want to. The current Dems don't have the balls to actually run and deliver on that, even with democracy on the line. Spineless pieces of shyt :snoop::mjcry:
I seriously hope if the Dems would literally walk out of the office and hand it to Republicans (if they lose) the military will take over and put an end to Trump finally.

If you will be known in history for just handing over the country to a dictatorship, you deserve consequences also. The Dems would be targeted if that actually happens.

It's a lose lose situation. They should be pulling every fukking lever to make sure that pink bytch never takes power.
 

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That's my only gripe about the D's they're trying to play this ideological high road when the other side has no qualms about getting dirty. By getting dirty they have gotten their way. They hijacked the narratives and fooled a third of the population with just outright fear and hate to believe what they're saying. Meanwhile the D's are just wagging their finger at it like that's actually getting results
The other problem with them is that the old guard won't GET OUT OF THE WAY.

Way to many geriatrics running the party and way to comfortable in what their positions afford them.

Gavin Newsom should be running and not Joe "half dead" Biden.

*Also why we have a messed up supreme court cause old Ruthie should have stepped down before Obona was out of office and let him appoint a young judge who isn't a conservative psychopath
 

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Donald Trump Says Fake Electors Scheme Was 'Official Act'​

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Joe Biden Blasts Supreme Court Ruling On Presidential Immunity

By Kate Plummer

FOLLOW

A Donald Trump lawyer has said that an alleged fake elector scheme was an "official act" and so should be immune from prosecution in Trump's federal election interference case.

Speaking to CNN's Kaitlan Collins on Monday night, Will Scharf, an attorney for the former president, laid out the next steps for special counsel Jack Smith's case following the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that former presidents have absolute immunity for their official acts but no immunity for private acts.

In a federal indictment filed in August, Trump is facing four charges pertaining to his alleged attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. He has denied all wrongdoing.

Trump's team is alleged to have created and submitted fraudulent certificates to falsely claim Trump had won the Electoral College vote in certain states to disrupt President Joe Biden's victory.

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Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump speaks at a campaign rally in Chesapeake, Va., Friday, June 28, 2024. The Supreme Court has ruled that former presidents are immune from official acts undertaken during their... More AP PHOTO/STEVE HELBER

Speaking to Collins, Scharf said that Smith's "case should be dismissed" because it concerns official acts not private ones.

"We've admitted consistently that there are acts alleged in the indictment that would constitute private conduct but we believe that if the official conduct, the immune acts in the indictment are stripped away, that Jack Smith doesn't have a case, that this case should be dismissed on that basis," he said.

When pressed by Collins whether using a "false slates of electors" would constitute enough for a trial, Scharf denied that the Trump team had used false slates and said using "alternate slates" was an "official act."

He said: "We would say alternate slates of electors and as we argued before the Supreme Court, alternate slates of electors have been a method used by previous presidents."

He continued: "We believe the assembly of those alternate slates of electors was an official act of the presidency."

Newsweek contacted the Department of Justice by website form to comment on this story.

After its Monday ruling, the Supreme Court has sent the Department of Justice case back to a lower court in Washington, D.C., to determine what constitutes an official act.

This is likely to delay the case, meaning it is less likely it will go to trial before the November election. Legal experts have suggested Trump could dismiss the charges in the case if he wins the election.

Meanwhile Trump celebrated the ruling in a post to Truth Social, writing: "BIG WIN FOR OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEMOCRACY. PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!"

The Biden campaign, on the other hand, said the ruling would not "change the facts" that Trump tried to "overthrow the results of a free and fair election."

"Today's ruling doesn't change the facts, so let's be very clear about what happened on January 6: Donald Trump snapped after he lost the 2020 election and encouraged a mob to overthrow the results of a free and fair election," the campaign said in a statement.

"Trump is already running for president as a convicted felon for the very same reason he sat idly by while the mob violently attacked the Capitol: he thinks he's above the law and is willing to do anything to gain and hold onto power for himself."
 

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I really don't know how the explain it clearly. Voting alone won't change shyt. It'll only delay problems. We have a systemic issue. Solely blaming voters ignore the real discussions needed.
Not by itself but it's an integral part. We are constantly allowing shytty politicians get elected because most of us don't vote in local elections and in primaries. The more "radical" politicians that could change the system in a positive way get looked down on as unelectable because people start allowing the powers that are already in charge sway their thinking. Hillary/Sanders is a prime example of that
 

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The other problem with them is that the old guard won't GET OUT OF THE WAY.

Way to many geriatrics running the party and way to comfortable in what their positions afford them.

Gavin Newsom should be running and not Joe "half dead" Biden.

*Also why we have a messed up supreme court cause old Ruthie should have stepped down before Obona was out of office and let him appoint a young judge who isn't a conservative psychopath
It definitely is time for the younger people to finally step outta the shadows. I think Newsome is the heir apparent face of the party unless a scandal takes him down. But he has all of the makings and credentials of the next one in 2028.
 

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Breh, I have a simple question for you. Why do you think you get nothing voting for dems, when they are the party opposing the crazy shyt the right wing is trying to do to our people. If that isn't enough for you then fine but there is a reason a majority of black people vote Democrats and it isn't because we are sheep or "on the plantation".


We vote for Dems because Republicans are known as the party for the wealthy which most of us arent. And theyve always had racist undertones and were considered the racist party. And lately theyve obviously completely leaned into the Southern Strategy since Obama.


So i think you just explained why we get nothing from the Dems. Why would they need to when you admit you will vote for them as long as Republicans are racist? Wouldnt it even be a good strategy for Dems to incite racism,allow racism,allow attacks on black people based on your low standard? The sooner you realize they are complicit the better. Is there a reason the Dems cant combat racism from Republicans AND offer agendas and solutions for black people? Yall act like they cant walk and chew gum at the same time. Plus are they doing such a great job at opposing the Republicans attack on blackness? Not last I checked.

It all just looks rehearsed at this point. Two parties pretending to oppose each other as they manipulate the masses to maintain their power and others:respect:
 

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Not by itself but it's an integral part. We are constantly allowing shytty politicians get elected because most of us don't vote in local elections and in primaries. The more "radical" politicians that could change the system in a positive way get looked down on as unelectable because people start allowing the powers that are already in charge sway their thinking. Hillary/Sanders is a prime example of that
Again disagree. People can vote only for what's available. Candidates are usually funded by special interest group way before people can vote for them. Not to forget practices like red lining and gerrymandering that restrict votes. As for Hillary, she won the popular vote. She lost cause of the system, not the people.
 

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Again disagree. People can vote only for what's available. Candidates are usually funded by special interest group way before people can vote for them. Not to forget practices like red lining and gerrymandering that restrict votes. As for Hillary, she won the popular vote. She lost cause of the system, not the people.
There's been several grassroots candidates since 2016 that went up against the establishment. Redlining and gerrymandering has nothing to do with intra-party local elections

That was the general election not the primaries between her and Sanders
 

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There's been several grassroots candidates since 2016 that went up against the establishment. Redlining and gerrymandering has nothing to do with intra-party local elections

That was the general election not the primaries between her and Sanders
Either you don't get it or you refuse to see a different perspective. I'm done.
 
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