2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread

[taker597]

 

[the cac mamba]

Okay, well let’s compare the evils.

Trump administration: Moves embassy to Jerusalem and vows to continue genocide.

Biden Administration: Facilitates the genocide resulting in 40,000 people and ethnic cleansing of millions.

no, HAMAS facilitated the fukking war. NOT JOE BIDEN

jesus christ

 

[taker597]

 

[br82186]

This piece of sh!t is a Chinese South African Trump supporter. Fukk him

These n-gga's are popping up more than Nigerians

 

[Big Jo]

Starting to think Cruz might actually lose his senate seat. Just need that bum ass Hawley to take an L too and I can die a happy man

 

[King Kreole]

Now show a graph that shows support for an arms embargo. Arms embargo and ceasefire and two different asks

If a politician can't connect the dots for their voters between a ceasefire the voters desire and an arms embargo on the side committing the overwhelming majority of the attacks, then they're one of the worst political messengers of all time and should not be running.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Now show a graph that shows support for an arms embargo. Arms embargo and ceasefire and two different asks

They're really not, but here you go:

Survey Among American Jews: Over 51% Support for Biden's Decision to Withhold Arms Shipments to Israel

Approximately one-third of respondents agreed with the accusation that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, while about half disagreed. - Survey Among American Jews: Over 51% Support for Biden's Decision to Withhold Arms Shipments to Israel

jcpa.org

New Poll Suggests Gaza Ceasefire and Arms Embargo Would Help Dems with Swing State Voters

The YouGov/IMEU Policy Project poll found over a third of voters in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia are more likely to vote for a Democratic nominee who pledges to withhold weapons to Israel.

zeteo.com

A significant share of Democrats and independent voters in pivotal swing states Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona are more likely to vote for the Democratic presidential nominee (presumptively Kamala Harris) if said nominee pledges support for an arms embargo to Israel, and if President Joe Biden secures a permanent ceasefire in Gaza. The findings come in new polling commissioned by the Institute for Middle Eastern Understanding Policy Project and conducted by polling firm YouGov.

In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.

Similar results were found when respondents were asked separately if they were more or less likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if Biden called for an end to US.-funded weapons to Israel or if the US president secured a ceasefire.

The results were particularly stark when looking at responses by those who voted for Biden in 2020 and are currently undecided. In Pennsylvania, 57% of such voters said they’d be more likely to support the Democratic nominee if they pledged to withhold additional weapons to Israel for committing human rights abuses; in Arizona, 44% said the same; in Georgia, 34% said so.

Poll Shows Backing Israel Arms Embargo Would Help Harris in 3 Swing States | Common Dreams

New polling shows Democratic and Independent voters in three swing states would be more likely to vote for Kamala Harris if she supports cutting off weapons to Israel, which is waging war on Gaza.

www.commondreams.org

From July 25 through August 9, pollsters asked voters if and how the Democratic nominee pledging "to withhold more weapons to Israel for committing human rights abuses against Palestinian civilians" would impact their vote. In Arizona, 35% said they would be more likely to vote for her, versus 5% who said they would be less likely. The figures were similar in Georgia (39% versus 5%) and Pennsylvania (34% versus 7%).

Even bigger shares of voters said they would be more likely to support her in November if President Joe Biden—who dropped out of the race and passed the torch to Harris last month—secured a permanent cease-fire in Gaza. In Arizona, 41% said they would be more likely to vote for her, versus 2% who said they would be less likely. In both Georgia and Pennsylvania, it was 44% versus 2%.

"If the Democrats want Vice President Harris to be the strongest nominee possible going into November, then they should be demanding that President Biden stop the flow of weapons to Israel and secure a permanent cease-fire immediately."

"Across all three states, 80% or more of Democrats and Independents support a permanent cease-fire and 60% or more disapprove of more weapons to Israel," the IMEU Policy Project said in a social media thread sharing more results from the poll. "About a quarter of those surveyed across these states say the violence in Gaza will sway how they vote."

The group added that "57% of Arizonans surveyed say U.S. support for Israel has been 'too much' versus just 2% who say it has not been enough. 48% of Pennsylvanians say it has been too much versus 3% who say not enough, and 50% of Georgians say it has been too much versus 2% who say it has not been enough."

 

[taker597]

Inbe4MAGA makes it illegal for independent to vote

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You live in Ohio?

Yup cleveland.

 

[Outlaw]

If a politician can't connect the dots for their voters between a ceasefire the voters desire and an arms embargo on the side committing the overwhelming majority of the attacks, then they're one of the worst political messengers of all time and should not be running.

Not true at all. She’s already calling for a ceasefire. Not getting any credit for it. If she calls for an arms embargo the entire corporate media apparatus, some AIPAC Dems and the Trump campaign would be calling Kamala an anti-Semite and pro Hamas/Iran. It would be the kiss of death

 

[the cac mamba]

It’s going to get ugly if she loses. Worse than 2016.

it's obviously unfair, but the reality is if kamala loses, she'll set women in politics back about 40 years

if donald trump really wins two terms, off of beating the only two female nominees ever, i'm not voting for a woman in a primary again for the rest of my life

 

[6CertsAndAMovie]

you kinda have to call bullsh_t on this one.

If she does it this late in the game, these same people will call it pandering and say she didn't support it when it mattered so why should they support her now?

 

[Outlaw]

They're really not, but here you go:

Survey Among American Jews: Over 51% Support for Biden's Decision to Withhold Arms Shipments to Israel

Approximately one-third of respondents agreed with the accusation that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, while about half disagreed. - Survey Among American Jews: Over 51% Support for Biden's Decision to Withhold Arms Shipments to Israel

jcpa.org

New Poll Suggests Gaza Ceasefire and Arms Embargo Would Help Dems with Swing State Voters

The YouGov/IMEU Policy Project poll found over a third of voters in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia are more likely to vote for a Democratic nominee who pledges to withhold weapons to Israel.

zeteo.com

Poll Shows Backing Israel Arms Embargo Would Help Harris in 3 Swing States | Common Dreams

New polling shows Democratic and Independent voters in three swing states would be more likely to vote for Kamala Harris if she supports cutting off weapons to Israel, which is waging war on Gaza.

www.commondreams.org

According to your numbers about 50% are for an arms embargo. You’re proving my point, she would take a political hit for calling for one

 

[AquaCityBoy]

According to your numbers about 50% are for an arms embargo. You’re proving my point, she would take a political hit for calling for one

22.50%

+

29.94%

=

52.44%

 

[GhostoftheMan]

does anyone actually think cruz will lose lol, he'll probably come through on top in the end again