NFL Week 4: What Have We Learned?!

[Supa]

At some point, people are going to have to stop using that as an excuse considering the regular season success they had with those WRs along with the fact we just saw the Chiefs do that exact thing last season.

They had an elite defense last season against a weakened Chiefs offense and still couldn't come through.

That's not an excuse is a reality. Look at every 2024 playoff teams WR's and tell me who the Ravens were better than:

MIA: Tyreek, Waddle
Hou: Collins, Dell, Woods
Bills: Diggs, Davis, Shakir
Det: St Brown, Williams
SF: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings
TB: Evans, Godwin
GB: Doubs, Watson, Reed
Pitt: Pickens, Diontae
CLE: Amari, Moore
PHI: AJ, Devonta
Dal: Ceedee, Cooks
LA: Kupp, Puka
KC: Rice, Watson, Mecole, MVS

Only maybe KC wasn't clearly better but they're deeper and Mahomes is better than Lamar.

Bateman is a bust. Agholor isn't reliable. What did they add? They didn't even need to get a top 5 WR. There were free agents available who could've added production so you get enough depth that you improve your passing game.

Did Lamar play great against KC no, but neither did Mahomes in the second half. A little more firepower would make things easier for the offense. It was a heavy dose of Zay Flowers and his fumble was the turning point in the game.

KC was the best defense in the playoffs. Why wouldn't you want as much firepower as possible? That's what every team was doing.

 

[IIVI]

I'm saying, if you're a QB-needy team right now, build your OL this year in the draft and free agency then draft Iamaleava next year.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

That's not an excuse is a reality. Look at every 2024 playoff teams WR's and tell me who the Ravens were better than:

MIA: Tyreek, Waddle
Hou: Collins, Dell, Woods
Bills: Diggs, Davis, Shakir
Det: St Brown, Williams
SF: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings
TB: Evans, Godwin
GB: Doubs, Watson, Reed
Pitt: Pickens, Diontae
CLE: Amari, Moore
PHI: AJ, Devonta
Dal: Ceedee, Cooks
LA: Kupp, Puka
KC: Rice, Watson, Mecole, MVS

Only maybe KC wasn't clearly better but they're deeper and Mahomes is better than Lamar.

Bateman is a bust. Agholor isn't reliable. What did they add? They didn't even need to get a top 5 WR. There were free agents available who could've added production so you get evening depth that you improve your passing game.

Did Lamar play great against KC no, but neither did Mahomes in the second half. A little more firepower would make things easier for the offense. It was a heavy dose of Zay Flowers and his fumble was the turning point in the game.

KC was the best defense in the playoffs. Why wouldn't you want as much firepower as possible? That's what every team is doing.

That was the Ravens unless you'd like to have revisionist history about how they performed all season long to that point.

I also wouldn't use that KC WR tandem for your argument because there were questions about them all season long and even going into the playoffs, which is why you had people picking their demise. Again, let's not have revisionist history about that KC offense as we can easily pull the receipts from what posters were saying.

 

[Remote]

Bo Nix first 4 games:

2-2 W/L
60.1% completion
660 yards
1 TD
4 INT

Bryce Young first 4 games:

0-4 W/L
63.89% completion
750 yards
5 TD
4 INT

 

[Easy-E]

1. The Funboys did not score any Offensive Touchdowns.

The Anderson INT

I forgot that was a pick 6 not a TD

Pick 6
Recovered Fumble
And 4 FGs

 

[Trojan 24]

Arizona needs to start looking for a Kyler Murray replacement

Baby Carr getting ready for the next Call of Duty

 

[Supa]

That was the Ravens unless you'd like to have revisionist history about how they performed all season long to that point.

I also wouldn't use that KC WR tandem for your argument because there were questions about them all season long and even going into the playoffs, which is why you had people picking their demise. Again, let's not have revisionist history about that KC offense as we can easily pull the receipts from what posters were saying.

I didn't say going in I said IN the playoffs. KC's defense outperformed everyone.

Regular season Chiefs are not playoff Chiefs. The offense performs better in the playoffs because Mahomes and Kelce go to another level. Chris Jones goes to another. Andy Reid and Spags go to another level.

You can't be a GM and expect your QB to play better than Patrick. You have to stack the deck and make sure you can score enough points.

There's no way you can look at the Ravens WR's and say they're good enough. Even if they won they had to face Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Kittle, and CMC. You gotta beat them twice with just Zay and a broken Andrews.

Lamar needs to play better but they need better WR's. Both things can be true.

 

[Mike_Pipeson]

That was the Ravens unless you'd like to have revisionist history about how they performed all season long to that point.

I also wouldn't use that KC WR tandem for your argument because there were questions about them all season long and even going into the playoffs, which is why you had people picking their demise. Again, let's not have revisionist history about that KC offense as we can easily pull the receipts from what posters were saying.

Say fam, forget Ravens had top5/6 defense and the best rushing in the league, the ravens don't have the best WRs so, that is the ONLY reason why they ain't SB champs with Lamar.
Their WRs couldn't be starters in HS teams

 

[3Rivers]

I like Najee Harris but I'm glad Pittsburgh didn't pick up his option. Vision and speed is subpar. Watching him trying to get the corner is

13 rush attempts for 19 yds at 1.5 ypa is awful. Comparared to Cordarrelle Patterson who averaged 7.2 on 6 rushes for 43 yds and is 33 years old. Even the rb called up from the practice squad had 5yds on 1 run.

 

[MVike28]

I like Najee Harris but I'm glad Pittsburgh didn't pick up his option. Visions and speed is subpar. Watching him trying to get the corner is

13 rush attempts for 19 yds at 1.5 ypa is awful. Comparared to Cordarrelle Patterson who average 7.2 and is 33 years old. Even the rb called up from the practice squad had 5yds on 1 run.

Struggle cuts part 2

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I didn't say going in I said IN the playoffs. KC's defense outperformed everyone.

Regular season Chiefs are not playoff Chiefs. The offense performs better in the playoffs because Mahomes and Kelce go to another level. Chris Jones goes to another. Andy Reid and Spags go to another level.

You can't be a GM and expect your QB to play better than Patrick. You have to stack the deck and make sure you can score enough points.

There's no way you can look at the Ravens WR's and say they're good enough. Even if they won they had to face Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Kittle, and CMC. You gotta beat them twice with just Zay and a broken Andrews.

Lamar needs to play better but they need better WR's. Both things can be true.

They literally could have won that game had their offense mustered up more than 10 points

We’re not about to sit here and have revisionist history about that game when a lot of people including posters on this site were claiming that they were going to beat them.

 

[MVike28]

If Lamar ran during the AFC championship game last season they are in the Superbowl

I love Lamar but he short circuits in key moments

That chiefs AFCC was prime example

 

[Belize King]

Coaches are turning down points to go for 4th downs all across the league and are getting fukked by it left and right
That essentially cost the Saints the game today

 

[KingsnBucs1987]

I'm saying, if you're a QB-needy team right now, build your OL this year in the draft and free agency then draft Iamaleava next year.

I don't know why teams don't build and round out the team first and then get the quarterback.

Once everything is in place the QB should be the cherry on top.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I don't know why teams don't build and round out the team first and then get the quarterback.

Once everything is in place the QB should be the cherry on top.

That’s an easy answer. Because teams are too scared and don’t want to be known as the team that passed on THE GUY.