NFL Week 10: What Have We Learned?!!

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Ghostface Trillah

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If you made a compilation of the top 5 worst plays by QBs this season , Daniel Jones and Will Levis would have all 5.

That flea flicker play is 6 points with any other QB in the league. 2 wide open men and this clown gets sacked. I refuse to believe that he's beating Drew Lock and Devito out for that starting job on a weekly basis. After Daboll gets fired I feel like it'll come out eventually that they forced him to start Jones.

If the Bengals had a competent defense Joe Burrow would be running away with the MVP voting no slight on Lamar

Lamar vs Burrow is really what they want us to believe Mahomes vs Allen is.

The chiefs are a defensive team carrying a suspect offense which sounds crazy but it's true. That offense keeps underachieving and that defense will eventually breakdown.

Deebo should be suspended by the 49ers. You can't have dudes putting their hands on teammates like that. That's a terrible look. They better than me because I would've body slammed him or something.

The chargers are about to run the NFL version of squid games in the next few weeks. Now we get to see if they're legit or beating up scrubs.
 

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Outside of KC in 2019 I dont remember the last time a team with poor defense won the Superbowl. Mahomes had to be Super Saiyn that entire playoff run.
What is this? The Chiefs were the 7th ranked scoring defense in 2019. How is that bad? The lowest ranked defense to win a SB in the last decade was the LA Rams in 2021. 16th in ppg. As a matter of fact the Chiefs in 2022, were 16th in ppg, also. Why you excluded them and included a KC defense that was much higher ranked, is beyond me. Im tired of perception outweighing reality.
 

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What is this? The Chiefs were the 7th ranked scoring defense in 2019. How is that bad? The lowest ranked defense to win a SB in the last decade was the LA Rams in 2021. 16th in ppg. As a matter of fact the Chiefs in 2022, were 16th in ppg, also. Why you excluded them and included a KC defense that was much higher ranked, is beyond me. Im tired of perception outweighing reality.

DVOA is more valuable than PPG to me when measuring defenses simply because it accounts for context of the game. Garbage time stats, ppg, and yards allowed etc.

While PPG doesn’t. It just shows the box score. I’ll like to see a list of both PPG ranked and DVOA of the past few years.
 

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DVOA is more valuable than PPG to me when measuring defenses simply because it accounts for context of the game. Garbage time stats, ppg, and yards allowed etc.

While PPG doesn’t. It just shows the box score. I’ll like to see a list of both PPG ranked and DVOA of the past few years.
I agree with you about DVOA. Problem is, me being a Brady fan, when ppl try to discredit Brady by using his defenses against him, they always use the points per game metric to do it. So why cant the same be used for other QB's? Ive jeard many, including Chiefs fans, talk about Brady having all these top 10 defenses. But when I point out that the Chiefs have had 5 top 10 scoring defenses in the last 6 years, all of a sudden, it.doesnt count? Most of Bradys defenses are average based on the DVOA system because it factors in everything.
 

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I agree with you about DVOA. Problem is, me being a Brady fan, when ppl try to discredit Brady by using his defenses against him, they always use the points per game metric to do it. So why cant the same be used for other QB's? Ive jeard many, including Chiefs fans, talk about Brady having all these top 10 defenses. But when I point out that the Chiefs have had 5 top 10 scoring defenses in the last 6 years, all of a sudden, it.doesnt count? Most of Bradys defenses are average based on the DVOA system because it factors in everything.

You can do what you want lol


that’s a good read for people to check out the defenses Tom had


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For a historical reference, here are the Chiefs’ defensive DVOA scores during the time quarterback Patrick Mahomes has been the starter.


YearRankScore
2018277.7%
201914-2.6%
2020224.9%
2021244.5%
2022226.7%

Historically, teams that win Super Bowls tend to be in the top 15 in defensive DVOA.

 

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@Chip Skylark so what did I say that was false? When ppl attempt to downplay Brady,.its point per game they judge on. His DVOA defenses, aaide from a couple years, ranged from mediocre , average to above average. I know all about advanced stats. Been on that since the KFFL..com and FootballGuys.net. The Football Outsiders. That shyt goes back over 20 years. This shyt aint nothing new.
 

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@Chip Skylark so what did I say that was false? When ppl attempt to downplay Brady,.its point per game they judge on. His DVOA defenses, aaide from a couple years, ranged from mediocre , average to above average. I know all about advanced stats. Been on that since the KFFL..com and FootballGuys.net. The Football Outsiders. That shyt goes back over 20 years. This shyt aint nothing new.

You didn’t say anything that’s why posted the link so people can get what you’re saying and see for themselves
 

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You can do what you want lol


that’s a good read for people to check out the defenses Tom had


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For a historical reference, here are the Chiefs’ defensive DVOA scores during the time quarterback Patrick Mahomes has been the starter.


YearRankScore
2018277.7%
201914-2.6%
2020224.9%
2021244.5%
2022226.7%

Historically, teams that win Super Bowls tend to be in the top 15 in defensive DVOA.

Why did you exclude 2023??
 
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