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HBCUs experiencing lower Black Male enrollment.
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the same analogy makes sense the other way. Again in a way women can't help boys because Boys know that the circumstances is different for Boys.
But to use the same analogy women don't do shyt for the community at large then get Mad when certain Members of the community don't help them you know Black women being the most unprotected thing.
No Man would say that they feel unprotected
Gritsngravy
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shouldn’t black women want to save black men?
Taadow
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No:
1. Black men know better than to expect help from any woman that ain’t his Mama (and sometimes not even her)
2. “Eventually end up” where? The same place we already are?
Gritsngravy
Superstar
Don’t need to be coddled? folks can barely fukking read or do math
What are the people who raising these boys doing
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
Gritsngravy
Superstar
Who make up majority of the teachers at these schools?
Gritsngravy
Superstar
Black men said that?
Women by far, of course. I've strongly advocated for more male teachers (which, of course, would require a lot more men going to college, something certain participants in this thread don't want to see happen). But while having men in the classroom definitely helps, it's not the end-all if we don't change pedagogies and structures too. Men can teach the wrong way for boys just as much as women can.
Gritsngravy
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I’m just saying it’s a pattern, what is it about the education system now that gets boys lost in the sauce
Boys at that age struggle to sit still, so being forced to sit quietly and listen for 6-7 hours a day is impossible and leads to a continuous punishment cycle that causes the teacher to dismiss their potential and either makes the child completely antagonistic to school or resigned to just checking out.
Boys are more likely to be tactile/kinesthetic learners, so they don't learn as much from just sitting and listening. Girls at some ages (as a general trend) tend to absorb more from listening than boys do.
Boys are more rebellious, either for social reasons or genetic, so they're more likely to rebel when told they absolutely have to do something they don't want to do. While most girls are willing to go along with the system in order to get what they need out of it.
A large number of boys have interests (using their bodies, working with tools) that don't translate to pen/paper tasks very well, so school doesn't seem relevant to what they feel the urge to do with themselves.
This isn't new - as someone pointed out earlier, the Prussian form of mass education is the basic problem and that's been around since the 1850s. But several trends have cause the problem to worsen over time.
1) The teaching profession has lost prestige, causing more and more men to transition out of it. Elementary teachers have always been primarily women, but the administrators used to be men and by the high school level most of the teachers were men, especially in STEM. Now the elementary schools are often almost entirely female from top to bottom and even the high schools are dominated by women.
2) The ultra-focus on test scores has caused schools to double down on the worst parts of Prussian education, especially in Black/Brown schools. Recess and PE and music and other engaging subjects got cut out, testing and test prep began to dominate the school calender instead. Boys feel more and more that their entire role in school is to shut up, pay attention, and take multiple-choice tests.
3) The desire for conformity and "standards" has caused more and more top-down control of schools from the state level and the adoption of increasing restrictive standardized programs for teaching, to the point of many inner-city schools even using "scripted" instruction where the teacher literally has to read everything out of a corporate script they've been provided. Not only is this a terrible pedagogy that doesn't serve the needs of the students, it's also been part of what has driven men out of the classroom because male teachers don't want to spend their lives conforming to that bullshyt any more than their male students do.
Gritsngravy
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@Professor Emeritus
I imagine you agree that there needs to be some type of educational reform which I personally believe to be the case, the issue i see though is the powers that be refuse to invest into education like it needs to be, and by invest I mean more than just financially
It’s like the educational game is play to win and I do not know why decision makers allow this, fukk what the citizens think what type of logic is it to not properly educate your populace, I know people talk about folks wanting a dumbed down population but I think that’s the goofiest shyt in the world to purposely dumb down people that’s supposed to be used to run the country, like people and kids are the most important resource in the world and they actively poisoning them to the point immigrants about to take over every important industry, that’s a national security risk
I imagine you agree that there needs to be some type of educational reform which I personally believe to be the case, the issue i see though is the powers that be refuse to invest into education like it needs to be, and by invest I mean more than just financially
It’s like the educational game is play to win and I do not know why decision makers allow this, fukk what the citizens think what type of logic is it to not properly educate your populace, I know people talk about folks wanting a dumbed down population but I think that’s the goofiest shyt in the world to purposely dumb down people that’s supposed to be used to run the country, like people and kids are the most important resource in the world and they actively poisoning them to the point immigrants about to take over every important industry, that’s a national security risk
These are sobering stats. Depending which admin wins, what would you suggest they do?Hope the next administration addresses this.
HBCUs: Addressing the Decline in Black Male Enrollment | AIBM
Black men now make up only 26% of students at HBCUs, down from 38% in 1976, leading to fewer benefiting from the supportive environment these…aibm.org
Summary
Black men account for only 26% of the students at Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs), down from 38% in 1976. In fact, there are fewer Black men enrolled at HBCUs today than in 1976. HBCUs have long served as valuable institutions for Black students, offering a unique environment that fosters academic achievement, mental well-being, and economic mobility.
More non-Black students offset these declines, but the reduced presence of Black men means fewer are benefiting from the supportive environments that HBCUs provide to help students succeed during and after college.
Key Takeaways
Enrollment of Black male students at HBCUs is currently below 1976 levels and declining more rapidly than in other colleges and universities.
The share of non-Black students at HBCUs is now about equal to the share of Black male students, at 26% and 25% respectively.
HBCUs enroll a higher proportion of lower-income students compared to non-HBCUs, and these students are nearly twice as likely to experience upward economic mobility.
This decline in Black male students is influenced by factors such as inadequate K-12 preparation, a lack of Black male teachers, and financial barriers both individually and institutionally.
Addressing these issues through targeted interventions and expanded funding may reverse the declining trend and increase the opportunities for Black men at HBCUs.
I can see it. I was in downtown DC when Howard finished their graduation last year. It looked like a women's college.The news is disturbing but the trend has been going on for decades. IBlack boys are not a priority in high schools. Not to mention colleges the last few decades have been on some real bullshyt. I have yet seen a report or anything that correlates tuition increases to a better quality of learning.
It's over
