Howard University (One of the top HBCUs) is 25% men, 19% Black Men and dropping lower over time

[Pure Water]

Naw. A job is a job. Again. You skipped over everything I said. The job market been shytty since Dubya.

Imma need y'all Negroes to stop reading to respond and read to analyze before actually taking the time to respond. Its nerve wrecking how pitiful reading comprehension is on this board.

This is factually not true if you have a degree. Matter fact, if you had a degree during the pandemic, then you were eating. Jobs were paying 10-15k more than what people were generally worth. It was super easy to find an office job during that time. My LinkedIn was blowing up with recruiters during that time.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Dummy

 

[WIA20XX]

We should encourage post-secondary education generally.

We do plenty of encouraging.

People still do what they're gonna do.

We encourage education, not having kids before marriage, safe sex, don't do crime, watch your kids, eat healthy food...on and on and on.

People know what they're supposed to do, but choose not to do it.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Im going to sound ignant...

But i blame rap

You are ignorant

 

[EndDomination]

Didn't Howard have a scandal about how their dorms are unlivable and ppl would rather sleep outside?

Why spend money onto a campus that takes it instead of reinvesting?

'They would rather sleep outside': Howard University students protest 'unlivable' dorm conditions

Students told ABC News that some dorm rooms have mold and insect and rodent infestations, as well as leaky ceilings and flooding.

abc7.com

Yes, but this also applies to every single other HBCU in the country, as well as every single other PWI in the country.

because we need all resoucres and opportunities directed to black boys 100%

We need to invest in both.

This is real easy to say, but there's literally thousands of people out there right now with Bachelor degrees and can't find a job or working a low paid $21/hr job.

I don't see this thread as a bad sign for black men. Maybe black men are opting for cheaper colleges, community college, trade school, or the military. Plenty of ways to get the bag without paying $65,000 a year.

Being unemployed or unemployed with no college degree is, without a doubt, worse than being unemployed with no college degree.

And no, Black men are not opting for cheaper colleges, community college, trade schools or the military at any discernible rate that would make this less of a worrying trend.

Y'all need to stop with this. There's way more to the story than dwindling black men not enrolling into a $65,000/yr college.

The “more to this story” is bleak.

What's wrong with $21/hr job? I mean yea it's not conducive to raising a family, but Negroes gotta be realistic. Technically the USA been fukked up since George W. Bush and I came out of HS in 2003. I still don't have kids, cause shyt too expensive and ain't no real money outchea. But black folks gotta learn to stop having kids you cannot afford, especially with this bipolar as economy.

Black Men aren't in colleges, but definitely joining the Fire Department. We moving to different industries outside of construction and law enforcement. Some are getting trades like hot cakes or they getting CDLs. Black men are Geauxin back to the days of when we weren't in professional jobs or companies but more blue collar fields and that's ok too.

I don’t think you have a gauge for the state of Black men in this country at all.

Check out the unemployment rates, underemployment rates, college drop-out rates, and incarceration rates. You’re painting a picture that just isn’t accurate.

And somehow Black men make slightly more money than Black women…

Median. And it isn’t enough to brag about.

 

[EndDomination]

We do plenty of encouraging.

People still do what they're gonna do.

We encourage education, not having kids before marriage, safe sex, don't do crime, watch your kids, eat healthy food...on and on and on.

People know what they're supposed to do, but choose not to do it.

I’m well aware. I was in Americorps, was a teacher, did MBK, and volunteer at the B&G Club.

It still isn’t encouraged *enough.*

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Being unemployed or unemployed with no college degree is, without a doubt, worse than being unemployed with no college degree.

And no, Black men are not opting for cheaper colleges, community college, trade schools or the military at any discernible rate that would make this less of a worrying trend.

Why are you assuming black men aren't doing anything else?

College is expensive, do y'all really expect every single black person to go to college instead of taking other routes?

 

[WIA20XX]

I’m well aware. I was in Americorps, was a teacher, did MBK, and volunteer at the B&G Club.

It still isn’t encouraged *enough.*

So just pour more time, energy, and resources into lost causes?

I respect your answer.

 

[EndDomination]

College is a scam sadly

It is not. But I hear this stupid sentiment all the time.

I hear it from grown men at eviction court, men who are literally about to be homeless, talking about how they’re going to “start their own business soon” and “get a house.”

I hear it from guys on PIPs at their city and county jobs who can’t advance because they don’t have any post-secondary education.

I’ve heard it from my cousins who are battling child support and are in and out of work because the hands-on labor market is so tumultuous.

Nonsense.

 

[EndDomination]

Why are you assuming black men aren't doing anything else?

College is expensive, do y'all really expect every single black person to go to college instead of taking other routes?

I’m saying that the routes you mentioned also aren’t being taken.

So just pour more time, energy, and resources into lost causes?

I respect your answer.

I run across young Black men and women Eve eh single day that don’t have a single person outside of a teacher or two who have pointed them to college.

Instead, they said once at 14 or 15 that “college isn’t for them” and the morons who are supposed to be shepherding them toward a future just accepted it and shrugged their shoulders.

I see that mindset on here all the time as well.

 

[AAKing23]

Dummy

If that's your definition of investing in boys you're the dummy breh

 

[AAKing23]

Yes, but this also applies to every single other HBCU in the country, as well as every single other PWI in the country.

We need to invest in both.

Being unemployed or unemployed with no college degree is, without a doubt, worse than being unemployed with no college degree.

And no, Black men are not opting for cheaper colleges, community college, trade schools or the military at any discernible rate that would make this less of a worrying trend.

The “more to this story” is bleak.

I don’t think you have a gauge for the state of Black men in this country at all.

Check out the unemployment rates, underemployment rates, college drop-out rates, and incarceration rates. You’re painting a picture that just isn’t accurate.

Median. And it isn’t enough to brag about.

Black men actually are going the 2 year route more frequently, my classes at my technical school were always filled with BM, you're probably going to say this is anecdotal evidence but the point still remains

 

[EndDomination]

Black men actually are going the 2 year route more frequently, my classes at my technical school were always filled with BM, you're probably going to say this is anecdotal evidence but the point still remains

It is anecdotal, because the stats show the opposite.

But I am also strongly in support of tech schools that provide strong career guidance and paths to employment immediately.

 

[WIA20XX]

I’m saying that the routes you mentioned also aren’t being taken.

I run across young Black men and women Eve eh single day that don’t have a single person outside of a teacher or two who have pointed them to college.

Instead, they said once at 14 or 15 that “college isn’t for them” and the morons who are supposed to be shepherding them toward a future just accepted it and shrugged their shoulders.

I see that mindset on here all the time as well.

Again, your perspective is that we just need to put more into it - to get them to go to college.

I get that.

Despite what's already been done, you think more can be done.

I get that.

Your part of the machine would find new ways to get the apathetic to care about their own lives. Role Models, More caring teachers, counselors, a media campaign, maybe pop culture saying to stay in school...same laundry list of things that have been tried for decades - just more of it.

I get it.

And you would send them to something...trade, community college, University of Phoenix, IT certs, nursing school, 4 year college, military - etc.

I'd bet that anything less than 100% would be a failure to you.

But...

I look at how people that were already motivated to do those things - the ones that got the message - and I look at their outcomes.

Plenty of Black People go to college

• Go to "bad" colleges
• Pick "bad" majors
• Don't graduate
• Don't do well academically, but do graduate
• Don't get good jobs
• Get jobs where they are under-employed

My point is that the system, the one you're strenuously advocating for, dedicating your career for - is just plain wrong.

No more, no less.

I salute your dedication to a system that's dysfunctional, and doesn't work for anyone - including black people.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I’m saying that the routes you mentioned also aren’t being taken.

What makes you assume that? Unless you're a big political figure that has knowledge on what most individual black men are doing?