Howard University (One of the top HBCUs) is 25% men, 19% Black Men and dropping lower over time

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I'm Morehouse, but yea like someone said in this thread earlier, all the top companies recruit from there to fill their diversity quota. I'm a recruiter and from a company standpoint, they can research and assume a candidate is black off their name at a NYU but they would have a better chance if they just picked a Howard or a Spelman. With that being said, they only look at Spelhouse and Howard tbh, but Gen Z sees how expensive college is and realized people can't afford retirement or to buy a house and say what's the point.

This is also why I laugh at people when they say Morehouse is an all boys school because CAU is like 70 percent women as well, and the ration in Atlanta is already in your favor as a man.

Oh yea and one of my best friends from school went to Michigan for MBA program, I went there last year for their homecoming. He was co president of the black business association with a Howard grad.

Kids can also do semester exchange at a pwi and go to hbcu and vice versa.

I still think the black "ivy" league school names rings bells. I don't make crazy crazy money but I'm okay, and my major was shyt, but 8/10 jobs I had they mentioned my school at one point.
 
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Im going to sound ignant...

But i blame rap :francis:

Thats just a part of it. It's really about chasing broke p*ssy at high school and not thinking about p*ssy at college, which is much better IMO. Some brehs grades are so abysmal that they might as well get a GED by the end of the 10th grade.
 

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It is not. But I hear this stupid sentiment all the time.

I hear it from grown men at eviction court, men who are literally about to be homeless, talking about how they’re going to “start their own business soon” and “get a house.”

I hear it from guys on PIPs at their city and county jobs who can’t advance because they don’t have any post-secondary education.

I’ve heard it from my cousins who are battling child support and are in and out of work because the hands-on labor market is so tumultuous.

Nonsense.

College is overpriced in America, even at the community college level, but people saying that critical thinking beyond the high school level classes are not needed for intellectual development for adulthood in the 21st century is playing themselves.

Those same brehs are the ones that are overtly emotional, keep getting played by women that are not ratchets, and keep getting denied at anything that aint a 3rd world level work place.
 

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Again, we're not really on the same page.

Let's say you get whatever Senator, whatever Party, to add a WPA style bill. (Remember the Green New Deal)

Who's gonna jump at whatever jobs they come up with?

Is it going to be the young black men that are ALREADY not interested in Trade School, College, or the Military?

Are we ACTUALLY trying to solve the problem, or just engaging in a war of attrition?



I don't have the faith in electoral politics or the social services industrial complex that you have.
I don’t have “faith,” as much as I know the limitations of what I can do as an individual.

If a revolution was available to change the structural location of Blackness, I’d be on board.

What is your proposal?
 

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But the focus should be on Black Boys… creating and maintaining a dedicated initiative for just Black Boys doesn’t take away from Black Girls
We have those - I agree that we need greater support for them, but there’s no reason to attack (as some are doing in this thread) support initiatives for Black girls.
 

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I don’t have “faith,” as much as I know the limitations of what I can do as an individual.

If a revolution was available to change the structural location of Blackness, I’d be on board.

What is your proposal?

There is no proposal to make people do things they don't want to do.

We can't motivate the unmotivated.

We can't make guys want something they don't want.
The carrot doesn't work. (riches, stability, women)
The stick doesn't work. (poverty, jail, death, sickness)

It's not lack of exposure. There's no such thing as a "low information voter".

It just doesn't how much evidence is out there, positive or negative.

This "untalented tenth" has seen the evidence of college/of future training, and also zero future education - and they choose zero.

Some want to coerce them, but I choose to accept their decision.
 

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It is not. But I hear this stupid sentiment all the time.

I hear it from grown men at eviction court, men who are literally about to be homeless, talking about how they’re going to “start their own business soon” and “get a house.”

I hear it from guys on PIPs at their city and county jobs who can’t advance because they don’t have any post-secondary education.

I’ve heard it from my cousins who are battling child support and are in and out of work because the hands-on labor market is so tumultuous.

Nonsense.
It is

You just dont know it yet

Sounds like you know a buncha bums and like to feel better about yaself on ya place above them. Good for you. Bringing up eviction court and child support court when we talking about college lmao. That has nothing to do with education level just bad life choices.


90% of college degrees are worthless and you didnt need to go there to get them. In fact most dont even go to get them. People slide into these jobs all the time without degrees. Im one of the few people who has a job in the field he went to school for i know. And most people in my field dont know shyt.

Everyone i knew in school cheated. Noone knows anything. This entire generation born in the 80s is useless for knowhow.


Yea trades are hard if ya gonna work for yaself. Its called risk/reward. Big money no benefits no job security vs small money and benefits/job security.

Every guy i know who works in a trade union does better than college guys money wise. Half of the trade guys already got degrees… and work trades bevause they cant get jobs anywhere else.

Most successful people i know skipped college went right into business for themselves.

The whole system. University. Dorms. is a scam to keep poor people from advancing. Network here for money. You dont need it. Noone needs to goto 100k a year school when a 5k a year will get you same thing.

Its just a paper that eases peoples worries of who they dealing with. When people hire you tor a job, they dont care about ya degree. Thats just a prerequisite to get into the door. They care about ya experience and how you can handle pressure thats it.

Or else people wouldn't be able to talk there way in thru interviews for jobs they dont even qualify for yet get all the time. .
 

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It is

You just dont know it yet

Sounds like you know a buncha bums and like to feel better about yaself on ya place above them. Good for you. Bringing up eviction court and child support court when we talking about college lmao. That has nothing to do with education level just bad life choices.


90% of college degrees are worthless and you didnt need to go there to get them. In fact most dont even go to get them. People slide into these jobs all the time without degrees. Im one of the few people who has a job in the field he went to school for i know. And most people in my field dont know shyt.

Everyone i knew in school cheated. Noone knows anything. This entire generation born in the 80s is useless for knowhow.


Yea trades are hard if ya gonna work for yaself. Its called risk/reward. Big money no benefits no job security vs small money and benefits/job security.

Every guy i know who works in a trade union does better than college guys money wise. Half of the trade guys already got degrees… and work trades bevause they cant get jobs anywhere else.

Most successful people i know skipped college went right into business for themselves.

The whole system. University. Dorms. is a scam to keep poor people from advancing. Network here for money. You dont need it. Noone needs to goto 100k a year school when a 5k a year will get you same thing.

Its just a paper that eases peoples worries of who they dealing with. When people hire you tor a job, they dont care about ya degree. Thats just a prerequisite to get into the door. They care about ya experience and how you can handle pressure thats it.

Or else people wouldn't be able to talk there way in thru interviews for jobs they dont even qualify for yet get all the time. .
I disagree with nearly everything you said, and your anecdotal experience regarding people who you know make the most money doesn’t mean much at all.

Across the board, the highest earning Black men are those with college and graduate degrees. Save for a handful of entertainers and athletes who managed to convert enormous amounts of social (and literal) capital into their own private ventures - this is true everywhere.

“90% of college degrees are worthless” is a bullshyt statistic. It’s hyperbole. And no, people do not just “slide into these jobs with no degree.”

You’re conflating going to a school where “everyone cheated” with the reality of a global economic system where the wealth is concentrated in a very specific class of people, where class mobility is tied to access to that class, and where higher education and proximity are the only ways you reach that.

Now, I agree that universities cost vastly too much, but that is a product of the federal government massively cutting funding to higher educations, and states doing the same -
 
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