Black men attendance of HBCU declining

[Neuromancer]

By any means

Living in this country every person who claims black needs to follow that motto

What do you propose in the face of the DOE being gutted or abolished?

 

[High Art]

So then do me a favor and quote the parts where I point out the problem in the people in means to adjust to it. I’m way too loquacious and have a well-rounded rationale as to why things are. And yes. We have to be upfront about black men failing. I stood a alongside another million black men…

Being upfront doesn't mean blaming the wrong people then again, if any of our own is to blame, it would be people like you who keep speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You claim there is a conspiracy but then act as if black men are to blame for failing to adjust while lauding black women. The problem is that THE CONSPIRACY WAS AIMED AT BLACK MEN, NOT BLACK WOMEN. So claiming a failure to adjust is not correct and even more, trying to put them on the same level when each group has their own challenges is stupid. But you're an idiot who can't get that.

The largest gathering of black men in this country‘s history With the opportunity to build, and we left with NO PLAN. The fact that I state that, you find a problem with it.

Sounds like the kind of people you'd enjoy being around. Their "plan" was black men blaming themselves. Their failure to adjust and protect their communities.

When I bring up a Jawanza Kufugu and his series on the conspiracy to destroy black boys, and his means of correcting it, you don’t quote that. When I bring up William Julius Wilson predicted these problems And how we need to adjust, you don’t quote that. You want black men to be viewed as perfect and refuse to address our imperfections and HOW we got there, youre being picked on.

Nothing I said was like God Shamgod simpleton response.

Drill rappers?

Drill rappers?

Get the fukk outta here with that dumb shyt.

We failed to adjust. You don’t wanna admit it. I’m saying we have and you have a problem with that because you want to be babied and not told the truth.

So screw your “seem like.” That’s you being emotional. We have to say the truth about ourselves, as well as the things attacking us and how we remedy them.

You keep using that word and wonder why people keep coming at you for it (I'm not the first and I won't be the last). I don't need to be babied but I do know how using the wrong terms can blow up in people's faces and distract and detract from actual conversation. You say this until someone starts bashing black women then you'll start losing their mind.
The only failure of black men is that we keep allowing people like you, either inarticulate or just outright stupid, into these conversations.

Quote me saying we need more black teachers. You don’t even want the reasons why we are where we are to be pinpointed, turning it into “seems like when “seems like “you don’t want to quote what I said are remedies

By itself, no you endlessly stupid fukk because those black teachers would still operate within a white supremacist school system that would still put the mother of all pressure on those black teachers. That doesn't even consider if those teachers are c00ns. We need more black academies and black schools. Black teachers in itself is not enough. We need race-based networking as well. I mentioned this before. I've also posted many times now a good way for black people, black boys especially, to get into medical school and so on. With some tweaking for a more current time, it's a lot more of a solid solution than the generalized drivel that has been tumbling out of your mouth is too many parts of this thread. I'd say thanks for the decent stuff, but that is stuff many of us already knew.

 

[dontreadthis]

Shiit is preposterous and weird.

Maybe Kai Cenat, Druski and Speed (I feel knowing these young bul's names) can do a Weekend Readoff Challenge..

definitely wouldn’t want to have this dude talking about education to my kids lol

 

[High Art]

Leading with kindness probably would help you're right.

Very much so. Kids and even some men need to realize that the issue is not some moral failing on their part but because they are caught in a twisted structure arranged against them. Knowing that, this means anything they do to get around it requires they do things differently to get the same result as other people. Knowing this is the only way to get around the issue.

 

[Loose]

Maybe if it didn’t cost $220,000 and took 4 years out of our life, we’d be more likely to go.

Community colleges do not cost 220k especially for the black people we are talking about who most are low income.

 

[High Art]

Leading with kindness probably would help you're right.

For example, this a post I made some time ago. I don't know who is reading this but I doubt any opps can destroy all of it. It is too much.

This might be a long post. Also, it has been a long time since I was in school so some of the stuff mentioned later on may have changed. I feel weird putting this out there since it feels like I'm giving away free game but I feel like enough people know this so it isn't a major issue.

You have to get more black males into STEM fields and much of that is making sure they have some framework and guidance that recognizes the issues they face. As with the Yale study and other studies I've posted on this site before, black males face serious issues in regards to how teachers, including black teachers, treat them. Either homeschooling or additional tutoring with a focus on making sure these children aren't being targeted and if so, a means of dealing with that issue.

Much of what I mentioned above is in general and for kids at the K-12 grade level. Getting kids into college is part of this and dealing with the above gets them into college. You also have to provide all the different paths a child can take into college. Taking AP courses to shorten their time in college. Checking to see if their AP exam costs can be decreased due to low income status (mine were due to this - if they qualify for low income lunch meals, they can qualify for this as well). Knowing which exams you intend to take in concert with which classes you intend to take in college and how is important as well. Consider that colleges consider which credits they will accept or how they are accepted sometimes based on your major. Med schools often regard your GPA from your science classes separately from your total GPA in addition to your MCAT score. Colleges regard which outside credits (community college (often easier) and so on) based on your major. So if you take a non-science major, take non-science AP exams (you can and should take the AP science courses in high school when offered) and credits, and take your science classes in community college while taking your main non-science (often easier) classes in the main college of your choice (so, imagine it to be a major, respected college), one can come out with a decent GPA in all categories. Add in programs like JAMP, which provide a pipeline into med school, that makes it easier. Add programs like Princeton Review that allow one to prepare for the MCAT, then one has a chance of really nailing it. I can also add that knowing about winter semesters and weekend courses for unimportant class credits offered by community colleges allows one to further reduce the amount of time they spend in college and makes it easier to take classes one is truly interested in. This is one path that plays on the fact that many med schools want someone with a well rounded background and thus love themselves people with odd majors (history, theology, philosophy) applying to med school. And if one really wants a science major (in case you decide to skip out on med school, get a masters first, something to fall back on), then remixing the plan can still work out well, though it is a little harder. There are also 6 year programs which allow one to merge the college/med school experience together.
The problem is that many children are not aware of this as well as the parents. Hell, not all counselors and even teachers are aware of this as well. We need to do a better job in helping our people understand the system better. Which leads me to the next part.

There needs to be career guidance as well. We need to abandon this idea of getting out of the mud or not providing help or guidance where we can in regards to black males. I never see anyone fail to help a black female but trust and believe that energy is never there for black males. That has to stop. Some kids (and parents) don't know what is required of kids to attend medical school also so there has to be something set-up to connect black doctors with students as a means of merely providing background or advice in regards to this. While it makes sense to ask those on the committees for med schools on what is needed, they will rarely ever tell you the shortcuts so you're better off getting that info from med students or even more so, residents. There also has to be a strong emphasis on positive reinforcement. When I used to mentor kids, I made sure to highlight their strong points and encourage their weaker points. Many kids want to learn, want to be better, and we are doing a disservice to them treating them terribly. We need to do better in that regards.

We have to hook kids into the idea of making it in medicine and that it isn't all stethoscopes and reflex hammers. If you want to make bank, you can do it as a radiologist, dermatologist, or psychiatrist. A lot of kids have a narrow view of the field so bringing in or bringing them around actual health professionals is important. Barring that, other roles such as physician assistants works as well.

In the end, guidance and understanding that black boys are fighting a war almost on all sides is important.

Edit: I'll also add that it doesn't end when you're done with med school, there's also residency. One needs to seek guidance on that as well. The military is a good option since I think you basically have guaranteed residencies for the most part (I did not do this approach) or you can shoot for those with higher slots.

Once one understands how the system is designed against them, then they can make plans to disrupt it. Understanding there is a system however, means that we have to marshal information such as the above and use it to help our own.

 

[Gritsngravy]

What do you propose in the face of the DOE being gutted or abolished?

Who knows what’s gon happen, got to wait and see, it is what it is

Back up plan for people who want to go but might not be able to, for a backdoor way to get into whatever industry you into, want to do medical, get a job in the hospital, engineer scientist, get a job as a technician lab tech


for people who got young kids I would imagine it’s absolutely critical to make sure your kids on point

 

[NYC Rebel]

Being upfront doesn't mean blaming the wrong people then again, if any of our own is to blame, it would be people like you who keep speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You claim there is a conspiracy but then act as if black men are to blame for failing to adjust while lauding black women. The problem is that THE CONSPIRACY WAS AIMED AT BLACK MEN, NOT BLACK WOMEN. So claiming a failure to adjust is not correct and even more, trying to put them on the same level when each group has their own challenges is stupid. But you're an idiot who can't get that.


Sounds like the kind of people you'd enjoy being around. Their "plan" was black men blaming themselves. Their failure to adjust and protect their communities.


You keep using that word and wonder why people keep coming at you for it (I'm not the first and I won't be the last). I don't need to be babied but I do know how using the wrong terms can blow up in people's faces and distract and detract from actual conversation. You say this until someone starts bashing black women then you'll start losing their mind.
The only failure of black men is that we keep allowing people like you, either inarticulate or just outright stupid, into these conversations.



By itself, no you endlessly stupid fukk because those black teachers would still operate within a white supremacist school system that would still put the mother of all pressure on those black teachers. That doesn't even consider if those teachers are c00ns. We need more black academies and black schools. Black teachers in itself is not enough. We need race-based networking as well. I mentioned this before. I've also posted many times now a good way for black people, black boys especially, to get into medical school and so on. With some tweaking for a more current time, it's a lot more of a solid solution than the generalized drivel that has been tumbling out of your mouth is too many parts of this thread. I'd say thanks for the decent stuff, but that is stuff many of us already knew.

A dumb fukk. My eldest son attended a black Afrocentric school in Brooklyn, which shut down three years ago due to a lack of student enrollment. You must be stupid if you think I’m going to think black teachers within white teaching spaces all the solution. But even within that space, black teachers still matter.

The difference between me and you is that I’m saying these are the reasons why things ARE and you decided to turn it into “black boys are being picked on “

 

[Rekkapryde]

Been trying .


Don’t get me started on the racism of some of these unions either

couple of my potnahs back home in Charleston SC are Longshoremen. The time you have to put in hours wise to not only get picked, but again get them hours needed to get a card is insane. But once you get in

 

[Rekkapryde]

A dumb fukk. My eldest son attended a black Afrocentric school in Brooklyn, which shut down three years ago due to a lack of student enrollment. You must be stupid if you think I’m going to think black teachers within white teaching spaces all the solution. But even within that space, black teachers still matter.

The difference between me and you is that I’m saying these are the reasons why things ARE and you decided to turn it into “black boys are being picked on “

The teachers that were the hardest on me were my black teachers and I get why. But you 100% right.

 

[High Art]

A dumb fukk. My eldest son attended a black Afrocentric school in Brooklyn, which shut down three years ago due to a lack of student enrollment. You must be stupid if you think I’m going to think black teachers within white teaching spaces all the solution. But even within that space, black teachers still matter.

The difference between me and you is that I’m saying these are the reasons why things ARE and you decided to turn it into “black boys are being picked on “

You dumbass failed abortion, because they are. Look, you've provided no true tangible, actionable solution and instead, just told us stuff that we already know or said stupid shyt. I'm done with you, I've said what I needed to say. My post above speaks for itself.

 

[NYC Rebel]

You dumbass failed abortion, because they are. Look, you've provided no true tangible, actionable solution and instead, just told us stuff that we already know or said stupid shyt. I'm done with you, I've said what I needed to say. My post above speaks for itself.

In this thread, we are having a bottom line discussion on why things are. We mentioned how his school system fail black boys. We mentioned how they grow into men reared for a manufacturing world that no longer exists while our girls were raised to think school first. I mentioned that Black male leadership are carried by charlatans, going as far back as the million man march.

You dont want that said because you are in your feelings.

You dont want a “state of why we are and where we are conversation” because youre too bytch made into your feelings.

 

[High Art]

In this thread, we are having a bottom line discussion on why things are. We mentioned how his school system fail black boys. We mentioned how they grow into men reared for a manufacturing world that no longer exists while our girls were raised to think school first. I mentioned that Black male leadership are carried by charlatans, going as far back as the million man march.

You dont want that said because you are in your feelings.

You dont want a state of why we are where we are conversation because youre too bytch made into your feelings

The only one in their feelings is you and the only one bytchmade is you. You complain about the million man march not doing anything but here you are doing no different. Providing nothing and telling us shyt we already know or shyt that is contestable and adding nothing overall. The "solutions" you provided aren't even well thought out and aren't actionable. There is no actual plan, the very thing you were whining about. I provided one and instead of commenting on that, you want to be in your feelings and whine about something else. You're a joke, a charlatan, and a fukking disgrace. Provide a fukking useful plan or fukk-off.

 

[Mashal88]

Maybe if it didn’t cost $220,000 and took 4 years out of our life, we’d be more likely to go.

It doesn't cost even close to that in New York, whether attending a CUNY or SUNY school yet the numbers are still lagging.

 

[NYC Rebel]

The only one in their feelings is you and the only one bytchmade is you. You complain about the million man march not doing anything but here you are doing no different.

You dont know what Im doing.

Im going to bring up what an elder said about the Million Man March:

“Ben Jealous (head of NAACP) and Farakhan got us all out there, sold papers and pies, made all that money and had no next step in mind.”

Just say youre upset that I found the march to be useless because it wasnt built to follow up on anything. I dont CARE of that bothers you.

I bring up a William Julius Wilson who in 1987 wrote that we would be where we are at now. He wrote the root causes. I co-sign his work. Go bytch to him about his findings I agree with. Im sorry that it makes you unhappy.

Im glad I could put my son in an Africentric school. I hate that there are damn near non existent now. I hate that I cant have conversations with Black men because way too many of you are so much into your “we are being picked on” feelings than looking at the reasons of why we are here.

You actually put what I wrote alongside some dummy bringing up drill rap. I dont give a fukk about dumb ass symptoms. I speak and examine root causes, and you arent built for that