Black men attendance of HBCU declining

[King Poetic]

White boys coming out of two parent homes are also seeing a precipitous drop in college enrollment.

I think we need to move past these cliches

I don’t care about them white folks

Black boys need a positive hard working father in they life , who will provide guidance..

We as black people need to stop with “ hey white people this white people that”

 

[NYC Rebel]

I don’t care about them white folks

Im not asking you to. But your cliche single mother rant isnt applying to other groups and they too are seeing drops.

Thats what we do with information. We take it & use it to see if a point, like yours, holds up and it isnt.

 

[High Art]

This has been discussed throughout here.

It's not the bulk, as I said. In any case, this is generally not understood or accepted in these discussions. It somehow always turns into black boys not doing enough or acting as if whenever another group is doing better, it is because that group earned their way there and black boys being where they are as a personal failing unto themselves.

 

[NYC Rebel]

It's not the bulk, as I said. In any case, this is generally not understood or accepted in these discussions. It somehow always turns into black boys not doing enough or acting as if whenever another group is doing better, it is because that group earned their way there and black boys being where they are as a personal failing unto themselves.

Its being discussed. No way can we talk about the Black experience around this and focus just on one thing. No one in here did “black boys not doing enough.” Even with many of us disagreeing in here, no one did that other than the Peruvian fukk boy.

You said that. The conversation in here did not turn into that. You created that

 

[Boxchevy]

You need to ask yourself . Why were men getting jobs in the past? Besides an ability to feed oneself what did it provide? Does it still do that?

We are not asking any questions. We're just saying I don't understand. We need to ask young brothers why. Do they not know? Do they not want to take the risk? What is it?

Black men need to accept the fact that we are living in a different social climate, and simply adjust on a collective level. It's really that simple..

 

[High Art]

Its being discussed. No way can we talk about the Black experience around this and focus just on one thing. No one in here did “black boys not doing enough.” Even with many of us disagreeing in here, no one did that other than the Peruvian fukk boy.

You said that. The conversation in here did not turn into that. You created that

I'm not the one who made all these posts nor spoke of some failure to "adjust".

PWIs arent the ones hurting HBCU enrollment. This is something else.

The we dont need college message being pushed by many shyt podcasters is making an impact.

Black Women havent been “propped up”’more then men. They just were set for the changing world than Black men.

Black men came up in this country still have the mindset of my father in law who finished HS, came up north, got a job as a bus driver and on his salary was able to buy a home and take care of his family. Black men historically made it in this country through the manufacturing industry while the only alternative for Black women other than being a domestic was to go to finish school. The manufacturing sector in this country has died since the early 80s and Black men collectively have yet to make the adjustment. Meanwhile, Black women, who if even raised in the hood would outpace Betty from the trailer park, kept plugged along at school and are see the results.

William Julius talks about this in his 1996 book “When Work Disappears” and foresaw the despair of Black men that would result.

He predicted this…and here we are

Niqqas aint adjust unlike our women.

The same young brothas that won’t go to college or trade schools rather be drill rappers/gangbangers with dreads,neck,arms sleeved up in tats and “hustle” instead of working at a job. I literally have one in my family who is about to go to jail cuz that’s the cliched path he chose

The apathy is a result of too many men not prepared for service based industries and feeling a need to confront systems and spaces where women who have made those adjustments and erect spaces that benefit them with contempt.

Black men need to accept the fact that we are living in a different social climate, and simply adjust on a collective level. It's really that simple..

These are examples. You, and some others, have made a lot of these issues seem like a failure of black men. A failure to adjust indicates that the failure is on black men. Invoking other groups ignores the fact that black men are forced to operate under a different system entirely unto itself.

That tracks so how do we turn young black men on to the path of adjustment?

We have to change how we talk about this shyt, honestly, and be mindful of how we phrase things. This is something I learned when working with young black boys back in the day and something I still see when talking to patients. People are very mindful of the words one uses and such creates a whole different environment and mindset about things. We should be talking about confronting the system put in place to hold down black boys rather than speaking of some failure to adjust since the former turns their mind towards the outward actual systems in place rather than some inward self-reflection. We need less inward self-reflection and more outward self-reflection.

We also have a terrible tendency of chasing people away from the community or conversation with bullshyt and then act surprised when they come back ready to tear everything down.

 

[SCJoe]

I’m thinking Attendance everywhere is dropping, I just saw the CSU’s out here are not retaining hundreds of instructors because of that.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'm not the one who made all these posts nor spoke of some failure to "adjust".













These are examples. You, and some others, have made a lot of these issues seem like a failure of black men. A failure to adjust indicates that the failure is on black men. Invoking other groups ignores the fact that black men are forced to operate under a different system entirely unto itself.



We have to change how we talk about this shyt, honestly, and be mindful of how we phrase things. This is something I learned when working with young black boys back in the day and something I still see when talking to patients. People are very mindful of the words one uses and such creates a whole different environment and mindset about things. We should be talking about confronting the system put in place to hold down black boys rather than speaking of some failure to adjust since the former turns their mind towards the outward actual systems in place rather than some inward self-reflection. We need less inward self-reflection and more outward self-reflection.

We also have a terrible tendency of chasing people away from the community or conversation with bullshyt and then act surprised when they come back ready to tear everything down.

So then do me a favor and quote the parts where I point out the problem in the people in means to adjust to it. I’m way too loquacious and have a well-rounded rationale as to why things are. And yes. We have to be upfront about black men failing. I stood a alongside another million black men… The largest gathering of black men in this country‘s history With the opportunity to build, and we left with NO PLAN. The fact that I state that, you find a problem with it.

When I bring up a Jawanza Kufugu and his series on the conspiracy to destroy black boys, and his means of correcting it, you don’t quote that. When I bring up William Julius Wilson predicted these problems And how we need to adjust, you don’t quote that. You want black men to be viewed as perfect and refuse to address our imperfections and HOW we got there, youre being picked on.

Nothing I said was like God Shamgod simpleton response.

Drill rappers?

Drill rappers?

Get the fukk outta here with that dumb shyt.

We failed to adjust. You don’t wanna admit it. I’m saying we have and you have a problem with that because you want to be babied and not told the truth.

So screw your “seem like.” That’s you being emotional. We have to say the truth about ourselves, as well as the things attacking us and how we remedy them.

Quote me saying we need more black teachers. You don’t even want the reasons why we are where we are to be pinpointed, turning it into “seems like when “seems like “you don’t want to quote what I said are remedies

 

[Gritsngravy]

And while we on this topic, y’all got it wrong and/or confused

Y’all need to stop listening to propaganda, every black child in America need to do everything in they power to go to college, the more black kids getting into higher education/academia the better

 

[⠀X ⠀]

Maybe if it didn’t cost $220,000 and took 4 years out of our life, we’d be more likely to go.

 

[Neuromancer]

We have to change how we talk about this shyt, honestly, and be mindful of how we phrase things. This is something I learned when working with young black boys back in the day and something I still see when talking to patients. People are very mindful of the words one uses and such creates a whole different environment and mindset about things. We should be talking about confronting the system put in place to hold down black boys rather than speaking of some failure to adjust since the former turns their mind towards the outward actual systems in place rather than some inward self-reflection. We need less inward self-reflection and more outward self-reflection.

We also have a terrible tendency of chasing people away from the community or conversation with bullshyt and then act surprised when they come back ready to tear everything down

Leading with kindness probably would help you're right.

 

[Matt504]

And while we on this topic, y’all got it wrong and/or confused

Y’all need to stop listening to propaganda, every black child in America need to do everything in they power to go to college, the more black kids getting into higher education/academia the better

We just elected a president that has the department of education in his crosshairs. Black children, male and female, are in trouble.

 

[Neuromancer]

Black men need to accept the fact that we are living in a different social climate, and simply adjust on a collective level. It's really that simple..

Not really that simple because if it was we'd have done it. And we aren't a collective. We haven't been for a very long time. So the people who are proposing the plan need to ask ourselves why this isn't happening? Is messaging wrong? Is the approach wrong? People are not digging deep enough and it really comes off as judgement more than it does actually caring.

 

[Gritsngravy]

We just elected a president that has the department of education in his crosshairs. Black children, male and female, are in trouble.

By any means

Living in this country every person who claims black needs to follow that motto

 

[Neuromancer]

Black boys are demoralized by the community and their mothers before they even go to school. They're the most abused and targeted children in America.

Y'all don't focus on their childhood development because you're afraid to address the very clear problem in the community.

ABUSIVE AND NEGLECTFUL SINGLE MOTHERS!

All the problems we see from childhood to adulthood are just effects of it.

What do you see as the solution to this? Because if the father isn't there or ain't shyt and the mother ain't shyt or resents the child then what can be done?