[8/31/19] Page vs Jericho & PAC vs Omega, All Elite Wrestling Present: All Out

[stro]

All Out (Of Healthy Talent)

 

[ynwa25]

More excited for PAC They can do moxley/omega for their first big ppv after the weekly shows start.

 

[The Great One]

More excited for PAC They can do moxley/omega for their first big ppv after the weekly shows start.

Yeah this is a huge blessing. Moxley is supposed to be a big star and they would have blown through matchups

 

[23Barrettcity]

Has pac been tearing it up.

 

[stro]

Has pac been tearing it up.

No. He's disappointed everywhere outside of Dragongate.

 

[Jmare007]

he seems to have lost some of the explosiveness in his movements and was going thru the motions in the aew stuff i've seen of him. 2016-2018 Omega at his best imo, from doing mat based stuff w Zack Sabre, to strong style shyt w Ishii, fukkery matches w Yano, flippy shyt or storytelling shyt w Ibushi/Okada. The decline I think started w the Tanahashi match at WK imo im not saying he is washed but he doesn't seem motivated to me.

what do you think @Jmare007 @Cobratron

I mentioned either here before or in another AEW thread, I think he is happiest in Japan and got roped into this by his friends and is already stressed out by being a VP. He's said it's a tougher position than he thought it would be. I predict he'll get out of his 4 year contract early and run back to NJPW full-time. Kenny isn't built for a U.S.-based weekly rasslin show/company, IMO, and that's fine because he's amazing in New Japan.
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It's an interesting case. He clearly took a step back from the stuff he was doing in 16-18 but as Cobra said, the lack of work might be the main factor here. We gotta wait till the TNT show if he truly is unmotivated or if it's just a case of not wrestling enough and being occupied on other stuff.

BUT, we also gotta take into account he's also been wrestling less and less the last 3 years. This is breakdown according to cagematch:

2016: 136 matches (117 in New Japan)
2017: 92 matches (73 in New Japan)
2018: 62 matches (54 in New Japan)
2019: 8 matches so far, probably gonna end up with 15-20 barring injury.

Cobra might be onto something when he says he'll try to get out of his 4 year contract early. I'm not sure he wants to wrestle 100+ dates to an audience he clearly doesn't feel as connected with as with the Japanese. But we'll see I guess, two years of a light schedule might also help him out to go all out for AEW in this first run too.

 

[THE 101]

117 New Japan matches in a year?

Do they even run that many shows in a year?

 

[Superkick Party]

117 New Japan matches in a year?

Do they even run that many shows in a year?

If it's including all the tag matches i wouldn't doubt it

 

[VegetasHairline]

Brock Lesnar wrestled more this year than Kenny Omega

 

[THE 101]

 

[krackdagawd]

U know in japan he only had like one off day a month right? He said so

Thats not true at all. NJPW dont book events that way.

 

[Max.]

Thats not true at all. NJPW dont book events that way.

They had him doing hela media shyt all over always traveling i guess

 

[Dog Based Gremlin]

"Pac vs Omega" is RVD vs Jerry Lynn levels of exciting

Ambrose trash in the ring

fukk him

 

[Silkk]

TBH they needed TV to build up Mox vs Omega because there really was no story going into All Out and those are probably the top two guys in their prime right now for the company (Until Cody goes back heel)

 

[methodz]

Pac vs Omega is way more 5 star natch potential than Kenny vs Moxley which would probably be much better with a bigger push on TV. I don't see bad news here at all, my only concern is that I don't want either Omega or Pac to lose. Hard match to book.