2024 U.S. Presidential General Election Thread

[the cac mamba]

i kinda hope trump picks a male VP, so the contrast is even better when kamala just has one job during the campaign; promoting abortion rights. she needs to just go around the country talking about abortion, and nothing else. perfect opportunity for her to connect with women

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Very good for Biden

Fah please no shyt polls lmaoo

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

I would not be counting on that.

Kushher and his Saudi friends could definitely put a damper on the economy but cutting production around the election

They tried that in the midterms and 2020 and it didn’t work.. where you been? U.S already got that Venezuela oil and Guyanese oil on deck

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

The ONLY thing that would really fukk shyt up is a serious health issue for Biden. And I don't mean a broken leg or him showing up with one of those random purple wounds that old people get

I'm talking about a scary dementia/brain/mental related episode where an unnamed staffer ends up having to go to a podium and gently escort him off the stage as the entire audience sits in stunned silence.

For maximum effect, Biden needs to be shuffling his feet, momentarily stop, face the audience squinting his eyes, turn back towards the podium as though he wants to return, only for the staffer to continue turning him so he makes a full revolution and ends up facing offstage again without him realizing it.

Biden literally has the best health care and doctors in the fukkin country.. You really think they won’t catch some shyt before it shows itself? Yall nikkas gotta stop this bs concern trolling

 

[Dameon Farrow]

The takeaway from New Hampshire is how many votes Haley managed to get. Also the number of votes she and Desantis got in Iowa. The anti-Trump movement within the gop is gaining steam and getting out in the open in subtle little ways. By mid-year they'll be wilding out.


It's too little too late, though. But my my my the coming entertainment.

 

[Json]

They tried that in the midterms and 2020 and it didn’t work.. where you been? U.S already got that Venezuela oil and Guyanese oil on deck

You trying to compare midterms to a presidential election?

There are way more low info voters in the general election. Add in the higher social media disinformation campaign.

Biden has incumbency but he’s not invincible and not popular

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

You trying to compare midterms to a presidential election?

There are way more low info voters in the general election. Add in the higher social media disinformation campaign.

Biden has incumbency but he’s not invincible and not popular

Bro did you not read my post I also said 2020 which was a presidential election and compared to Trump? Yeah Biden going to smack him again..

Trump has lost every single election his name was on or candidates he endorsed since 2017

 

[bnew]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/23/trump-victory-speech-haley-playground-bullyTrump the sinister playground bully in New Hampshire victory lap

Trump the sinister playground bully in New Hampshire victory lap​

David Smith in Nashua, New Hampshire

Ex-president follows up his Iowa win with victory over Nikki Haley – and makes threats against his last Republican primary rival

Tue 23 Jan 2024 23.50 EST

Donald Trump onstage during his primary night rally in Nashua, New Hampshire, on 23 January. Photograph: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

The cruelty is the point.

As Joe Biden acknowledged on Tuesday night, Donald Trump now has the Republican presidential nomination sewn up. But like a Roman emperor or mob boss, Trump used his victory speech in New Hampshire to humiliate his former opponents – and make sinister threats against his last primary rival.

The former US president had followed up his record win in the Iowa caucuses with victory over Nikki Haley, his former ambassador to the UN, with a double-digit triumph in less favourable political territory. As Republican politicians and donors scramble to jump aboard the Trump train, it is clearly game over for the Never Trumpers.

Trump could have been magnanimous in victory and congratulated Haley on a race well run. Instead, he was palpably irked by her refusal to drop out of the race. Petty and vindictive, he became a playground bully punching down for the benefit of an audience that glories in metaphorical violence.

Addressing a crowded hotel ballroom in Nashua, he gave Haley a dark warning: “Just a little note to Nikki. She’s not going to win. But if she did, she would be under investigation by those people in 15 minutes, and I could tell you five reasons why already.

“Not big reasons, little stuff that she doesn’t want to talk about, that she will be under investigation within minutes, and so would Ron [DeSantis] have been, but he decided to get out.”

There were echoes of political operative Lee Atwater or Roger Stone’s dirty tricks campaigns, or Trump senior campaign aide Chris LaCivita’s Swift Boat veterans takedown of John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election. It was also redolent of Trump’s own vicious attacks on Senator Ted Cruz’s wife and father (whom he baselessly linked to the John F Kennedy assassination) in 2016.

But Trump has plenty of humiliation to serve around, even to people on his own side. He invited former opponent Vivek Ramaswamy to speak but only “if he promises to do it in a minute or less” (admittedly, given Ramaswamy’s fiendishly irritating debate performances, many will take Trump’s side on that one).

Donald Trump looks at Tim Scott as Vivek Ramaswamy laughs at a primary election night party in Nashua, New Hampshire, on 23 January. Photograph: Pablo Martínez Monsiváis/AP

Then there was Senator Tim Scott, another ex-rival who has already debased himself with a fawning endorsement of Trump. With his unerring ability to get under people’s skin, he said to Scott that, since former South Carolina governor Haley appointed him to the Senate, “You must really hate her.”

There was an awkward silence in the room and a rare grunt of dissent from someone. To rescue the situation, Scott stepped forward to the lectern, looked at Trump and grovelled: “I just love you!” The crowd exhaled in relief. Scott was the hapless father in The Godfather who had accepted: “For justice, we must go to Don Corleone.”

Like Chris Christie in 2016, Scott has surrendered his principles to the inevitability of Trump. Haley now stands alone in a Republican party that belongs to him. Did she ever have a chance? Perhaps she could have done more to make it a choice rather than a coronation.

Haley could have emphasised her spouse’s military record and gone after Trump on his description of fallen solders as “losers” and “suckers”. She could have celebrated her identity as a daughter of Indian immigrants to contrast herself with Trump’s bigotry, nativism and racism. She could have played up her gender and what masterstroke it would be for Republicans, not Democrats, to produce America’s first female president after nearly 250 years.

She could also have been more forceful in making the electability argument, taking her cue from Christie who hammered Trump over his defeat in election after election.

But none of these are deemed viable in today’s party. Instead, when Haley did go bold and against the grain, it was on foreign policy, ardently pro-Israel and anti-Russia, and constantly bashing China. It was never going to win many extra votes but it was sure to alienate the isolationist “America First” wing of the party, personified by Ramaswamy.

Nikki Haley attends her primary election night rally in Concord, New Hampshire, on 23 January. Photograph: Brian Snyder/Reuters

Other flashes of courage arrived too little too late. Early on Tuesday Haley appeared on Fox News’s Fox & Friends and said, bluntly, she did not know if they would “tell the truth” about her campaign. Later, in her concession speech, she pushed the electability argument: “The worst-kept secret in politics is how badly the Democrats want to run against Donald Trump.”

If it was such a badly kept secret, why not shout it from the rooftops months earlier?

But like many bullies, Trump’s ostentatious show of strength was motivated by inner weakness. Haley did well enough among independents to raise red flags for Republicans in the general election.

Trump wins in New Hampshire as Haley vows to stay in race for Republican nomination – video

The Lincoln Project, an anti-Trump group, commented: “It’s clear that Trump is political poison to moderates. Sane and moral republicans said their conscience won’t allow them to vote for a chaos-driven maniac who is under 91 criminal counts, a proven sexual predator, and authoritarian wannabe who will shred the constitution and burn this country down.”

Biden, meanwhile, won the unsanctioned Democratic primary without even being on the ballot. He, not Trump, was the winner of the night when judging how things will play out in November.

Trump rules by fear in his party but lacks the love of his nation. For many voters, it is not love but loathing.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Biden literally has the best health care and doctors in the fukkin country.. You really think they won’t catch some shyt before it shows itself? Yall nikkas gotta stop this bs concern trolling

"concern trolling" has got to be the most overused phrase on HL

it's like people aren't allowed to say ANYTHING, even obviously speculative scenarios.

How do you distinguish between "concern trolling" and discussing a future we don't control? Do you truly believe that having the best health care/doctors in the world guarantees protection from any/every health issue?

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Biden literally has the best health care and doctors in the fukkin country.. You really think they won’t catch some shyt before it shows itself? Yall nikkas gotta stop this bs concern trolling

At his age he can keel over and die at any moment. He needs to replace Kamala as his VP imo

 

[Json]

Bro did you not read my post I also said 2020 which was a presidential election and compared to Trump? Yeah Biden going to smack him again..

Trump has lost every single election his name was on or candidates he endorsed since 2017

2020 was Covid. That’s why Trump got kicked out. That’s nothing like a normal election cycle.

The economy isn’t firing on all cylinders. The Fed hasn’t eased off the rates yet and we don’t know how soon they will.

That’s inherently not true. Otherwise MTG wouldn’t even be in the Congress anymore. I don’t know why you’re even exaggerating like that.

 

[bnew]

"concern trolling" has got to be the most overused phrase on HL

it's like people aren't allowed to say ANYTHING, even obviously speculative scenarios.

How do you distinguish between "concern trolling" and discussing a future we don't control? Do you truly believe that having the best health care/doctors in the world guarantees protection from any/every health issue?

At this point it's very clear bidens cognitive functions exceeds that of trumps.

his competition.

https://archive.is/YllM7

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

"concern trolling" has got to be the most overused phrase on HL

it's like people aren't allowed to say ANYTHING, even obviously speculative scenarios.

How do you distinguish between "concern trolling" and discussing a future we don't control? Do you truly believe that having the best health care/doctors in the world guarantees protection from any/every health issue?

That’s cause you cats don’t use basic logic and to answer your question yes having the best doctors help because they literally monitoring you… Biden is the president they will run test and more test and triple test to make sure he’s good

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

2020 was Covid. That’s why Trump got kicked out. That’s nothing like a normal election cycle.

The economy isn’t firing on all cylinders. The Fed hasn’t eased off the rates yet and we don’t know how soon they will.

That’s inherently not true. Otherwise MTG wouldn’t even be in the Congress anymore. I don’t know why you’re even exaggerating like that.

The economy is firing on all cylinders… The economy does better under a Dem president than a Republican going back to Clinton..

 

[Robbie3000]

2020 was Covid. That’s why Trump got kicked out. That’s nothing like a normal election cycle.

The economy isn’t firing on all cylinders. The Fed hasn’t eased off the rates yet and we don’t know how soon they will.

That’s inherently not true. Otherwise MTG wouldn’t even be in the Congress anymore. I don’t know why you’re even exaggerating like that.

“2020 was Covid” what the hell does that even mean? Trump got whooped in a head up in 2020. He has lost every election cycle since.