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DrBanneker

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3500 isn't a large number my guy. How many of them were older voters? We both know better than this. Where's the breakdown?
As long as the poll is not demographically or geographically biased that sample is large enough to minimize error...it is bias that kills polls not measurement error typically.
Both large and small are showing trends

Reuters just had one



But the state polling shows continued Trump leads


People also need to realize abortion anger is more localized. We have only seen it affect state or congressional candidates hostile to abortion rights. How it sways the general is unclear.

There really are people who compartamentalize POTUS vs state elections
 
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People also need to realize abortion anger is more localized. We have only seen it affect state or congressional candidates hostile to abortion rights. How it sways the general is unclear.

This is where you missing the bigger picture. This isn't just about Abortion... this about Republicans installing Christian Nationalism in the Government; so Alabama just did the IVF stuff, and soon Birth Control (which includes Condoms, not just the 'Pill'.), Banning Porn (Gumroad is banning NSFW, PornHub is being banned in states along with Tumblr banning NSFW Images).

So it's not just about Woman's Reproductive Rights, but also Reproductive Rights for Men as well.
 

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i honestly don't understand why you guys hate kamala so much.... she seems like your run of the mill politician... certainly nothing to get excited about but also nothing to be terrified of either..... the hatred of her reminds me of the hatred of hillary.... kamala doesn't have an email server scandal on her resume, i wonder what else they might have in common that's driving this....

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her record on prison reform. the minor charges and large jail terms.

dems need to turn over a new leaf regardless of outcome.
 

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This is where you missing the bigger picture. This isn't just about Abortion... this about Republicans installing Christian Nationalism in the Government; so Alabama just did the IVF stuff, and soon Birth Control (which includes Condoms, not just the 'Pill'.), Banning Porn (Gumroad is banning NSFW, PornHub is being banned in states along with Tumblr banning NSFW Images).

So it's not just about Woman's Reproductive Rights, but also Reproductive Rights for Men as well.
No I get their thrust. This isn't about me. Dominionism has been growing for decades and they are getting bolder and desperate.

The issue is whether people will get up off their ass and vote against Trump in the general based off this. Roe v Wade was a shocker. This other stuff, just as threatening, is drip drip.

If reproductive issues besides abortion was like a stick of dynamite, why are all these red states letting their maternal care services, especially in White rural areas, collapse? I mean there should have been a revolt against local GOP when women can't reach a hospital that delivers for hours. But it rolls on.

The IVF decision is horrific but remember IVF is a bigger impact on older, educated, well off women. I doubt MAGA is banking on those types sad but true.

The educated aware class that cares about liberty outside of gun rights is not the MAGA base or swing votes.
 

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This is why I’m very confident about 2024. Run January 6 footage on an endless loop and remind the casuals how chaotic the Trump presidency really was…hell, run footage of Trump’s press briefings during Covid.

I’ll guarantee atleast 52% of Americans will not want to return to that kind of drama and chaos.
 

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This is why I’m very confident about 2024. Run January 6 footage on an endless loop and remind the casuals how chaotic the Trump presidency really was…hell, run footage of Trump’s press briefings during Covid.

I’ll guarantee atleast 52% of Americans will not want to return to that kind of drama and chaos.

Trump is calling for bloodshed if he loses so in knowing that would you vote for him or not?
 
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