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2024 U.S. Presidential General Election Thread
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King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Why would anyone do this? We're talking about the Democratic VP nomination.
Luckily he can’t vote so all he can do is try to influence American electoral politics from the safety of his VPN. Similar to how he tried years ago to convince black Americans Donald Trump was in our best interest.
When are we going have a conversation about Shapiro being an Obama clone.
Dude literally mirrored his cadence and copied his style.
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Asian yreh knew that shyt wasn’t happening in that photo.FOXCONN
I been calling dude Yeshiva Obama.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
The mistake people keep making is thinking that America has a mandatory voting system where everyone in the country is forced at gunpoint to choose between the two major party candidates. The real metric to watch is voter turnout and enthusiasm. Pissing off key institutions in your coalition like labor and teachers unions just makes it harder to build the unity and excitement needed to win the election. That doesn't mean picking Shapiro would sink the campaign, I don't know anyone here who is saying that. The one correct thing Trump said yesterday was that the VP selection historically has had minimal impact on the election results. So might as well go with the guy who will be bringing good progressive instincts, ideology and history into the room when President Harris is making decisions.
Smoking With Cigarettes
Superstar
I think the concern is the potential to depress the vote. I feel like this is an artificial convo though because Harris has so many options without stink attached to them, she's not going to do something stupid when she's so close to the goal. That and Shapiro is more valuable where hes at. Its just the Dems in Disaray trope the media needs to fuel doomwatching of the 24/7 cycle
Also not directed at you but the fact Moderate vs Progressive wars in HL rage on is
Malia Obama gonna be up against Barron Trump and Coli brehs will be arguing about grandma AOC not providing a convincing enough endorsement or path to citizenship for fish people vs anti-wet fin laws. These convos do matter but we tend not to discuss them in productive ways
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
Some of you are putting too much faith in white women again
But for everyone else, it's not about pushing people *towards* voting for Trump; it's about getting them to show up and vote at all.
One of the biggest appeals Democrats have right now is the GOP attacking women's rights, safety and autonomy, so why would you risk alienating them and going with a VP who covered up the sexual harassment of one of his women staffers.
Plus the campaign needs to regain trust among disillusioned swing state voters who believe Kamala will continue Biden's enabling of the genocide in Gaza. So you want her to take the political risk of picking a VP who's a staunch zionist and covered up a sexual harassment case
Momentum is on Kamala's side, but this race is nowhere near over, and both parties think the election will be very close.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
That's not the full story, Shapiro was getting heat from women lawmakers in both parties because he's been super cagey and opaque about this whole incident, and allegedly said it's a great thing they've been able to keep this secret.So someone in Shapiro’s office allegedly harassed someone they then settled with the alleged victim? What should they have done say we don’t believe you and take it to court?
If Shapiro was the only good choice Kamala had that would be one thing, but there are multiple options just as good, if not better, than Shapiro that don't have this albatross hanging around their neck. Why even risk it?
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
But for everyone else, it's not about pushing people *towards* voting for Trump; it's about getting them to show up and vote at all.
One of the biggest appeals Democrats have right now is the GOP attacking women's rights, safety and autonomy, so why would you risk alienating them and going with a VP who covered up the sexual harassment of one of his women staffers.
Plus the campaign needs to regain trust among disillusioned swing state voters who believe Kamala will continue Biden's enabling of the genocide in Gaza. So you want her to take the political risk of picking a VP who's a staunch zionist and covered up a sexual harassment case
Momentum is on Kamala's side, but this race is nowhere near over, and both parties think the election will be very close.
I don't disagree, though my gut feeling is the election is going to be less close than we fear. I see Kamala at least doing Biden 2020 numbers, maybe give or take (emphasis on give) a state.
All that said, I'm not buying the tacit argument that Shapiro is such a toxic candidate he would disway people voting from Kamala in any significant way. I don't think he's the optimal VP pick for the reasons mentioned. In my mind Walz has the most pro's and least con's, but each candidate has their nuances
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