TI really was King of the South

[JustCKing]

The bold part is irrelevant.

The whole point is that artists on those labels were mainstream successes.

And afterward, artist from everywhere else knew the South was here to stay.

How is it irrelevant? They were only hot because of the label. They weren't mainstays.

Neither CMR and No Limit signaled The South was here to stay. They weren't even here to stay. You could make a solid argument for CMR, but everybody knows Wayne/Drake/Nicki CMR isn't the same as Hot Boys/Big Tymers CMR.

 

[JustCKing]

Why you talkin' about Jay?

NOBODY was talkin' about Jay.

Well, T.I. was called the Jay Z of the South. I brought it up in response to you calling T.I. the Ja Rule of The South. Nobody was talking about Rule either.

 

[Taadow]

How is it irrelevant? They were only hot because of the label.

Alright. Now if this is true:

1. How did the labels get hot? Who got them hot?

2. Isn't T.I. and Jeezy's labels the reason they got hot?

 

[JustCKing]

No, they're not.

Breh, I don't even like TM101 all that much. Trap Muzik grew on me. Still, I can't sit here and deny the impact and influence of either of those albums when they first dropped and how they still are revered today.

 

[Taadow]

Well, T.I. was called the Jay Z of the South.

...by whom??

 

[Taadow]

Breh, I don't even like TM101 all that much. Trap Muzik grew on me. Still, I can't sit here and deny the impact and influence of either of those albums when they first dropped and how they still are revered today.

I can acknowledge the "impact and influence" of those albums also - but i've never heard anyone say those are "two of the best
albums to come from the South"...

 

[Zero]

...by whom??

By T.I.P.

 

[Taadow]

By T.I.P.

EXACTLY LOL.

Tip is the only person I ever heard mentioning him and Jay in the same breath.

 

[JustCKing]

Alright. Now if this is true:

1. How did the labels get hot? Who got them hot?

2. Isn't T.I. and Jeezy's labels the reason they got hot?

1. No Limit and CMR are record labels.

2. T.I. and Jeezy were solo artists. If you're from The South, you saw T.I. strike out with a Neptunes produced single in "I'm Serious" and gain a huge buzz with "Dope Boyz", which culminated into him really tapping into who he was an artist. Then he got on some key guest spots and the In Da Streetz tapes, which was all leading to the joint venture with Atlantic. That led to "24's", which was the lead single to Trap Muzik.

Jeezy wasn't even going by Jeezy. Dude was on an indy as Lil' J. He changed his name and started hustling mixtapes. The mixtapes is where he cultivated his fanbase. Trap or Die made people take notice.

^^^ They weren't out here reppin' labels or got on because they were a part of a crew.

 

[JustCKing]

By T.I.P.

EXACTLY LOL.

Tip is the only person I ever heard mentioning him and Jay in the same breath.

"Lyrically, he's the down South Jay Z"----- Pharrell Williams.

 

[Taadow]

1. No Limit and CMR are record labels.

I know that, Forrest.

I asked, if the artist on those labels who got big only got big for being on said labels...what made those labels so viable?

2. T.I. and Jeezy were solo artists. If you're from The South, you saw T.I. strike out with a Neptunes produced single in "I'm Serious" and gain a huge buzz with "Dope Boyz", which culminated into him really tapping into who he was an artist. Then he got on some key guest spots and the In Da Streetz tapes, which was all leading to the joint venture with Atlantic. That led to "24's", which was the lead single to Trap Muzik.

Jeezy wasn't even going by Jeezy. Dude was on an indy as Lil' J. He changed his name and started hustling mixtapes. The mixtapes is where he cultivated his fanbase. Trap or Die made people take notice.

^^^ They weren't out here reppin' labels or got on because they were a part of a crew.

They were on the biggest labels for rap music at the time where everybody who rapped was getting major push.

Jeezy was down with Bad Boy, and got out of that situation to get to Def Jam.
T.I. got a label deal with Atlantic, which was givin' out money to folk like Pretty Ricky at the time.

 

[Taadow]

"Lyrically, he's the down South Jay Z"----- Pharrell Williams.

"I'm a 'New Black', and the name of my group is N.E.R.D." ----- also Pharrell Williams

 

[JustCKing]

Peep game:









You see how quickly the goal shifted from talking about it to being a whole album dedicated to it?

Ya'll should get paid for this type of swerve

That's not a goal post move. The goal post move is when people are in here claiming that OutKast actually made Trap songs. Because they made references to trap and they were successful in the mainstream posters are in here claiming that they are more responsible for making trap mainstream than T.I. Ya'll should be paid for the lengths you'll attempt to reach to justify ludicrous opinions as fact.

 

[JustCKing]

I know that, Forrest.

I asked, if the artist on those labels who got big only got big for being on said labels...what made those labels so viable?



They were on the biggest labels for rap music at the time where everybody who rapped was getting major push.

Jeezy was down with Bad Boy, and got out of that situation to get to Def Jam.
T.I. got a label deal with Atlantic, which was givin' out money to folk like Pretty Ricky at the time.

You're in here playing dumb, so I will continue to spell it out for you.

No Limit and CMR rode the wave of Master P and Juvenile. They only maintained success as long as those artists remained successful. It's less true in CMR's case.

Jeezy wasn't on Bad Boy as a solo artist. He was signed to Bad Boy as a part of Boyz In Da Hood while also being signed to Def Jam as a solo.

T.I. had a joint venture with Atlantic.

 

[JustCKing]

"I'm a 'New Black', and the name of my group is N.E.R.D." ----- also Pharrell Williams

And his opinion still holds more weight than ours because he actually produced songs for BOTH Jay and T.I. Your quote has nothing to do with anything.