TI really was King of the South

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I guess tis number10 cuz I can't really think of anyone else not many legends from the south:francis:i guess outkast is over him too. that don't make ti the king:hhh:
:hhh:Tf with some of these choices
 

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Ti to me is overrated:manny: not saying that everybody on that list are rappers I'm a huge fan of either. No one comes close to scarface wen it comes to bieng named king of the south.
 

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You are ALWAYS dismissive of everything you don't personally like.

Post the Beans interview

Breh, alternative rap doesn't change the fact that they're Southern pioneers.

Eightball & MJG put Memphis on the map and laid the foundation for styles like crunk and trap.

OutKast made people look at Atlanta as a viable Hip Hop city. Did they make Atlanta dominant? No.

I wasn't bragging. You pointed out that there were people disagreeing with. What's funny is that those that were disagreeing with me were arguing that Kast pioneered trap music. Not only that, they went as far as to saying they made it mainstream. I simply pointed out that you were in here arguing with a post that agreed with me.

We are talking about The South as a region are we not? This would be like someone from Florida going into a thread on the "King Of NY" talking about how Biggie, Jay, or Nas was perceived outside of NY and looking foolish because it wasn't even the point or premise of the discussion. Said poster from Florida would have no credibility on the subject whatsoever because they are an outsider who really doesn't have any standing in such a discussion. You're not qualified to speak on who moved the needle for The South. For one, you're biased. Two, you've proven you don't know what you're talking about because you seem to think No Limit blew up the entire South. You're still in here trying to paint Eightball & MJG as regional when artists as diverse as Mase, Foxy Brown, Mobb Deep, Too Short, Krayzie Bone, and artists outside of Hip Hop such as Brian McKnight and Limp Bizkit were calling on them for remixes. That means, to some degree, they made noise outside of their respective region to where people were on their music.

What ground did Eightball & MJG break? They were selling hundreds of thousands of copies without a major distributor, which was unheard of at the time that they did it. They pioneered some of the styles that later became popular i.e. crunk and trap.

Those "idiots" as you call them, had a valid point. You purport yourself as a Hip Hop head and a historian, but were dismissive of The Source. No one is saying their word was the end-all, be all, but it was respected and held in high regard by Hip Hop heads.


actually, THE BOLDED WAS THE BASIS OF THE ARGUMENT!!!!!
this is why you shouldn't jump into other people's business, blindly cosigning niccas when you really don't know whats going on. now you in here looking stupid & desperate for ammo.

LOL. its not about who I like or don't like. youtr just reaching for straws.
for the record, I like the roots, I like 8ball & MJG, I was a 3-6 mafia FAN circa '98-01. TIP had his moments. I never cared to like or dislike outkast. I dislike them now because of revisionist history.

go find the beans interview yourself, mr know it all. I don't see the point of you looking it up anyway. youre still gonna think what you wanna think.

8ball & mjg may have put Memphis on the map regionally but that's not what we're talking about here. nationally, they weren't big. It doesn't matter how many rappers from other regions they collaborated with. just cuz you do songs with foxy & mase, it doesn't mean that youre poppin in BK and harlem. BE SMART SON. and on top of that, ALOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE FROM TEXAS!!!

8ball & mjg were selling hundreds of thousands of copies DOWN THERE. that's not breaking ground. they influenced styles DOWN THERE.

outkast didn't make Atlanta into a viable city breh. the Atlanta scene wasn't checked for until those crunky rappers blew up. I'm not going in circles about this anymore. I can tell you know what it is by now. you just want to repeat yourself.
 
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He truly was.

Anyone with more tenure or clout than him came around to co-signing him or got challenged by him
 

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We are talking about The South as a region are we not? This would be like someone from Florida going into a thread on the "King Of NY" talking about how Biggie, Jay, or Nas was perceived outside of NY and looking foolish because it wasn't even the point or premise of the discussion. Said poster from Florida would have no credibility on the subject whatsoever because they are an outsider who really doesn't have any standing in such a discussion. You're not qualified to speak on who moved the needle for The South..


:dahell:

In regards to what me & you are in here arguing about?
we're not arguing about the king of the south. we're arguing about who broke the south thru NATIONALLY.

if anything, YOURE THE ONE that's not qualified to speak on that, seeing that youre down there and you clearly have no clue who made the south pop off on a national level. youre even in here trying to credit local yocals as national pioneers. its like you have some sort of communication problem or something. I mean youre an alright guy/girl or whatever, but you come off like youre L.D. in every thread.

and for the record, I lived down south too cannon, and I'm still down there a lot. I'm more than qualified to hop into king discussions as well. I know way more about what goes on down there than you do.:laugh:
 

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During TIPs rise Outkast was moving out of rap, well at least Dre.

Jeezy was taking over.

Lil Jon was probably the biggest thing going.

Luda was beginning to fall off.

Wayne was building his monster.

No limit was fading.

Ross was building, but we all thought he was a one hit wonder.

Texas was going crazy

Everyone was waiting on the clipse and Slim thug.


All that said, when Atlantic bailed him out Tip became the king.
 

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:dahell:

In regards to what me & you are in here arguing about?
we're not arguing about the king of the south. we're arguing about who broke the south thru NATIONALLY.

if anything, YOURE THE ONE that's not qualified to speak on that, seeing that youre down there and you clearly have no clue who made the south pop off on a national level. youre even in here trying to credit local yocals as national pioneers. its like you have some sort of communication problem or something. I mean youre an alright guy/girl or whatever, but you come off like youre L.D. in every thread.

and for the record, I lived down south too cannon, and I'm still down there a lot. I'm more than qualified to hop into king discussions as well. I know way more about what goes on down there from mainstream to underground than you.:laugh:
I'm not reading through all this shyt but objectively it's either Scarface or Trick Daddy/Luke (2 live crew).
 

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I'm not reading through all this shyt but objectively it's either Scarface or Trick Daddy/Luke (2 live crew).


this nicca said trick daddy.

maybe you should read through "all this shyt" because something tells me that you don't even know what we're talking about.

:mjlol:
 

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this nicca said trick daddy.

maybe you should read through "all this shyt" because something tells me that you don't even know what we're talking about.

:mjlol:

1) nikka Stop.

I've actually recorded and performed in stadiums.

2.) trick was hot before during and probably his biggest as No Limit faded away.

3.)the people he put on all becomes stars in their own right.
 

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this nicca said trick daddy.

maybe you should read through "all this shyt" because something tells me that you don't even know what we're talking about.

:mjlol:
But what I said was TIP solidified himself during a time where there were a lot of big southern acts.

24s made him famous.
What you know about that made him a superstar.
 

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1) nikka Stop.

I've actually recorded and performed in stadiums.

2.) trick was hot before during and probably his biggest as No Limit faded away.

3.)the people he put on all becomes stars in their own right.


:what::why:

WTF are you talking about?

get away from me weirdo.

dudes is really SLOW on here.
 

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I read the shyt you posted in this thread. TI was always bigger than Jeezy. get out ya feelings.


you repeatedly quoted me arguing about something else. and you came in here talking about trick daddy.

as for what I was saying DAYS AGO, which you didn't quote; TIP was more geared towards the crossover. he was moreso the south's jarule in comparison, like homie said earlier.

maybe you should find the guy that said that, cuz I'm already set on putting you on ignore.
 

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you repeatedly quoted me arguing about something else. and you came in here talking about trick daddy.

as for what I was saying DAYS AGO, which you didn't quote; TIP was more geared towards the crossover. he was moreso the south's jarule in comparison, like homie said earlier.

maybe you should find the guy that said that, cuz I'm already set on putting you on ignore.
TIP wasn't y'alls Ja Rule. That was Luda.

tip had his own lane and brought his own slang. he saved y'all from the Jermaine Dupri and LJ and TESB era.

but that really wasn't the question. during his Peak, TI was probably considered and rightfully so the King of the south but those old heads were still getting buzz and putting a lot of the other guys on and still had their respect.
 

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In regards to what me & you are in here arguing about?
we're not arguing about the king of the south. we're arguing about who broke the south thru NATIONALLY.

if anything, YOURE THE ONE that's not qualified to speak on that, seeing that youre down there and you clearly have no clue who made the south pop off on a national level. youre even in here trying to credit local yocals as national pioneers. its like you have some sort of communication problem or something. I mean youre an alright guy/girl or whatever, but you come off like youre L.D. in every thread.

and for the record, I lived down south too cannon, and I'm still down there a lot. I'm more than qualified to hop into king discussions as well. I know way more about what goes on down there than you do.:laugh:

It is still asinine to say P broke the South through nationally when you had acts that were consistently successful before, during, and after No Limit's run. On top of that, they were more respected for the craft than No Limit was. In comparison, No Limit was a fad. You had a bunch od bandwagon jumpers who hoppes on the next wave once CMR came along.

Again, No Limit put their state and city on a National stage. They were self contained and everything stayed Lousiana. You even said that No Limit didn't have a sound to latch onto. Point blank, they didn't take The South national no more than Kast, Geto Boys, or 2 Live did. They were another milestone in The South getting to where it got in 2003 just like the aforementioned groups.

Crunk and Trap became dominant sounds in music period. Stars were popping up all over The South. If you can't see that this was NOT happening before 2003, kick rocks.

Breh, you're clearly the one with a problem. I don't go around with illusions of grandeur or refer to myself as we. Those are clearly tell tell signs of mental instability.

Breh, with sone of the BS you posting in here, you've never lived down south. I don't believe you. You'll post any and everything just to support this whole facade that you're some kind of historian. You have no credibility.
 
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