TI really was King of the South

[Taadow]

You're in here playing dumb,

Here's what's "dumb" in here - you say "No Limit and CMR rode the wave of Master P and Juvenile"...
but you somehow don't think the success of No Limit and CMR opened the doors for the rest of the South
to blow up. Okay.

 

[Taadow]

And his opinion still holds more weight than ours because he actually produced songs for BOTH Jay and T.I. Your quote has nothing to do with anything.

His opinion isn't any better on this topic than ours, because we have ears just like he does and we listen to the same chit he does.
If anything, since he works with both his opinion is biased.

As a listen of rap, what in the bloody black hell have you ever heard from T.I. lyrically that is comparable to something Jay-Z said?
(that's rhetorical question.)

Go to bed.

 

[JustCKing]

Here's what's "dumb" in here - you say "No Limit and CMR rode the wave of Master P and Juvenile"...
but you somehow don't think the success of No Limit and CMR opened the doors for the rest of the South
to blow up. Okay.

Because the rest of the South is bigger than Louisiana.

 

[JustCKing]

His opinion isn't any better on this topic than ours, because we have ears just like he does and we listen to the same chit he does.
If anything, since he works with both his opinion is biased.

As a listen of rap, what in the bloody black hell have you ever heard from T.I. lyrically that is comparable to something Jay-Z said?
(that's rhetorical question.)

Go to bed.

His opinion is more informed because it's unbiased. He's not listening to the same things we're listening to because we're consumers. He's actually seen both of them craft songs and albums from scratch. That's not the same as pulling up some YouTube footage and watching someone create. He's developed ideas from both artists into the songs that we're hearing. We're hearing the final product.

 

[Pegasus Jackson]

I'll always give respect to Tip because when he came out originally with "I'm serious" he was on the back of a local rap magazine called Elemental and the ad labeled him "the king of the south". I laughed and thought "who was this nikka and what gives him the nerve?".. plus I'm Serious flopped, but I'll be gotdamn if he didn't prove it in a few years.

 

[North of Death]

Peep game:









You see how quickly the goal shifted from talking about it to being a whole album dedicated to it?

Ya'll should get paid for this type of swerve

How was the goal post moved? I mentioned Trap Muzik 10 pages ago due to it being the first album in rap history where trap was the overall theme. Mentioning outkast and cool breeze is fukking dumb for this discussion.

 

[Still Benefited]

That was kind of messed up what he did to flip though. I mean a couple of diss tracks? cool.
But dude went in for an entire Full length mixtape.

I was a big Flip fan from back when i first started hearing him on underground Cali shyt....but at that point in his career it was time for FLip to be taken out back and put down like a old dog....aint no telling how much he wouldve hurt his legacy if T.I let him live....plus for as messed up as it was what he did to Flip,he replaced him with Young Dro so we really came out better,sorry Flip


What he did to FLip aint why he was the king though,its because this nikka was from the south but loved everywhere. Could hop on songs with nikkas from north,south,east and west and murder them nikkas in whatever capacity the song called for....a country ass nikka who had a swagger that wasnt deemed "country bumpkin",T.I had the all purpose swagger where he would be considered the cool nikka in any timezone....In his prime he had one of the coolest,smoothest deliveries since 93 Snoop

Probaly the greatest chameleon rap has ever seen,this nikka sounded at home everywhere








and did i mention the audacity and the arrogance....aint no south nikka been able to match what T.I was able to do since,probaly never will again....It took FED charges to humble em,theres only one king

 

[Still Benefited]

.....Hov anyone?



Facts...but he was a default "King" after the Weezy fatigue started to set in....

Wayne was too goofy and lacked content to be the king,king aint just who was the hottest.

its a reason 50 had to cry about the fact people wasnt considering him the king of new york even though he clearly was hotter than Jay and Nas.....some nikkas just aint built to be king

just think about it,T.I said it and was at first laughed at....then maybe less than a year later had folks nationwide eating they words like "Damn,this nikka might really be the king".....He humbled the hiphop community which is hard to do,how can he not be king?

 

[50CentStan]

More like the bytch of the south. Who hates on another man only because he's successful and you not? FBTI

 

[Still Benefited]

More like the bytch of the south. Who hates on another man only because he's successful and you not? FBTI

*sees username*

 

[50CentStan]

*sees username*

One Gentleman was shot. One was a snitch who hating on the freestyle king crowned by the king of the South Robert Davis himself

 

[Luke Cage]

More like the bytch of the south. Who hates on another man only because he's successful and you not? FBTI

Low key, exactly what you just did in this post. FB50CS?

 

[Still Benefited]

One Gentleman was shot. One was a snitch who hating on the freestyle king crowned by the king of the South Robert Davis himself

He got shot a long time ago,whats his excuse for all the hatin on nikkas he been doing this past decade since he fell off?

T.I aint hated on a nikka for publicity since and he aint as musically relevant either,so I'm assuming he had a real issue with Flip even though it may not have been what he said it was....50 on the other hand called 4:44 golf cart music.

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

If you're going to base it on Lil Flip than you HAVE to consider that at his height he got embarassed by Luda, so no.

That's like saying "Jay was the King after the public gave him that W over Mobb Deep" without mentioning Nas/Ether.

 

[Wacky D]

The South is legitimized. Regardless of how some people view The South, artists from every region are making records that sound like The South. That didn't happen under No Limit or CMR.

There were even R&B artists whose biggest records were crunk records and those songs were the catalyst for multi-platinum albums. Ying Yang Twins were going platinum

well if that's what you consider legitimized, then by your standards, it was legitimized by no limit.

and the rest of your post is just you going in circles.
you don't seem to have a grasp for who the barrier breakers are. prolly because youre from down there, so all these guys are detrimental to you. you even cite the regional guys as pioneers.

1) Ghetto Mafia was still a local group. A lot of people outside of GA don't know their music.

4) We're not in agreement. You tried to credit T.I. with popularizing a term when he did far more than that. Jeezy doesn't have a lane without T.I. It wasn't a sub-genre until T.I. dropped Trap Muzik. You're saying he simply popularized a term. I'm saying he made an entire sub-genre mainstream. Big difference. And while we're at it, one of the producers who saw trap evolve from the beginning to what it is now and even worked with both Jeezy and T.I. had this to say in regard to Trap:

5) How Jeezy blew up is important because the Jeezy that dropped Trap or Die doesn't sound like the Jeezy pre-Trap or Die. He changed his style after T.I. came out with Trap Muzik.

1.) are you really going to repeat the same bullchit, after someone who is from a completely different part of the country, just told you otherwise? this is a typical post from you.

4/5.) to sum up, TIP is the pioneer, but jeezy is the game-changer.