TI really was King of the South

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actually, THE BOLDED WAS THE BASIS OF THE ARGUMENT!!!!!
this is why you shouldn't jump into other people's business, blindly cosigning niccas when you really don't know whats going on. now you in here looking stupid & desperate for ammo.

LOL. its not about who I like or don't like. youtr just reaching for straws.
for the record, I like the roots, I like 8ball & MJG, I was a 3-6 mafia FAN circa '98-01. TIP had his moments. I never cared to like or dislike outkast. I dislike them now because of revisionist history.

go find the beans interview yourself, mr know it all. I don't see the point of you looking it up anyway. youre still gonna think what you wanna think.

8ball & mjg may have put Memphis on the map regionally but that's not what we're talking about here. nationally, they weren't big. It doesn't matter how many rappers from other regions they collaborated with. just cuz you do songs with foxy & mase, it doesn't mean that youre poppin in BK and harlem. BE SMART SON. and on top of that, ALOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE FROM TEXAS!!!

8ball & mjg were selling hundreds of thousands of copies DOWN THERE. that's not breaking ground. they influenced styles DOWN THERE.

outkast didn't make Atlanta into a viable city breh. the Atlanta scene wasn't checked for until those crunky rappers blew up. I'm not going in circles about this anymore. I can tell you know what it is by now. you just want to repeat yourself.

The bolded wasn't the basis of the argument. The basis of the argument was that you dismissed the Source as a whole and brushed off credible writers because you didn't know what you were talking about. When called out on it, you apologized for brushing odf the writers, but proceeded to dismiss the magazine as a whole.

It is anout who you do and don't like. You dismiss/downplay artists you don't like and elevate the artists you do like. You are no different than the media you criticize. You come off like one of those hipster/vultures who care nothing about the music and just use it as a talking point to bolster thwir opinion. Don't even cate to even research and will still argue even when presented with the facts.

Eightball and MJG were never stars, but they weren't regional either. When artists from other regions are reaching out, you are poppin on some level in that region.

OutKast made Atlanta viable. Even that interview you pulled up from Bone Crusher said that. Making somethong viable is not the same as blowing it up.

No. You pull up the Beans interview. YOU brought it up, now defend it.
 

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It is still asinine to say P broke the South through nationally when you had acts that were consistently successful before, during, and after No Limit's run.


I stopped reading right there.

just because you break thru nationally, it doesn't mean that youre the one opening up the market. this is yet another example of you arguing to the death about stuff that you cant even comprehend

the fact that you at least admit that master p put louisianna on the map is funny, because mystikal blew nationally long before master p. you see how that works? this is your last chance to smarten up.

cuz I cant explain it to you any more clearer than I already did, and ive seen numerous other people explain it to you even better in multiple threads.

youre on your own from here on out. I cant save everybody.:yeshrug:


The bolded wasn't the basis of the argument. The basis of the argument was that you dismissed the Source as a whole and brushed off credible writers because you didn't know what you were talking about. When called out on it, you apologized for brushing odf the writers, but proceeded to dismiss the magazine as a whole.


no dumbass.

you missed the entire point of what I was saying.

only thing I was wrong about, was who the writers were at the beginning, and I admitted to being wrong about it, but that doesn't change my stance on it at all.

you prolly don't even know what my stance was.:laugh: stop being an idiot.
 
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I stopped reading right there.

just because you break thru nationally, it doesn't mean that youre the one opening up the market. this is yet another example of you arguing to the death about stuff that you cant even comprehend

I cant explain it to you any more clearer than I already did, and ive seen numerous other people explain it to you even better in multiple threads.

youre on your own from here on out. I cant save everybody.:yeshrug:

Ignorance.

Now you're in here arguing against your own point. This was my initial statement (the one you're quoting):


It is still asinine to say P broke the South through nationally

And you're saying "just because you break thru nationally, it doesn't mean that youre the one opening up the market". Isn't that what you've been in here attempting to argue this whole time: that Master P broke the South through nationally and opened up the market.

You didn't explain anything.

Breh, you aren't anybody's savior. You can't even formulate an argument.



no dumbass.

you missed the entire point of what I was saying.

only thing I was wrong about, was who the writers were at the beginning, and I admitted to being wrong about it, but that doesn't change my stance on it at all.

you prolly don't even know what my stance was.:laugh: stop being an idiot.

Nobody missed a point. You didn't know who the writers, which is why you were wrong. If you knew better, you wouldn't have played yourself. Can't expect any better though because people who want to know it all often don't have stance at all.
 

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TIP wasn't y'alls Ja Rule. That was Luda.

tip had his own lane and brought his own slang. he saved y'all from the Jermaine Dupri and LJ and TESB era.

but that really wasn't the question. during his Peak, TI was probably considered and rightfully so the King of the south but those old heads were still getting buzz and putting a lot of the other guys on and still had their respect.



luda & jarule have nothing in common.

you don't understand dude's analogy.

btw, Ludacris = busta rhymes.
 

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:hhh: That's not true. I'm from fukking New Orleans. It was New Orleans people kill both Houston and New Orleans people.

It was the other way around, dog. Evacuees were getting dropped left and right, and virtually cleansed out of every block where they attempted to move in on.

Case and point.
https://www.myplainview.com/news/article/Houston-drug-war-leaves-Katrina-evacuees-dead-8566883.php

One H-town nikka + 11 weeks = at least 7 evacuees dead. Wash rinse and repeat across the city.

Then even more got killed by Houston hard heads when they started snitching as stated in the article. NO nikkas didn't know how to hustle in the city, and learned real quick that they best only deal with selling to other NO people and stay away from Houston nikkas turf.

Soup, a 50-year-old African-American crack dealer from New Orleans, described his methods for coping with potential competitors and the on-going conflicts among sellers:

I really don’t have no territory but I go find me a spot that I know is safe, where ain’t nobody doing what I’m doing and I handle my business. But I know if you go into somebody’s territory they are going to kill you. That is what has been happening all through the early days of the year. They were just shooting each other up. Why are you over here!? Then after they shoot him, somebody drive over there to shoot somebody over there. That is why I don’t like, you know…I mean I know people that be out there on them corners but I don’t hang out there with them.
The Melding of Drug Markets in Houston After Katrina: Dealer and User Perspectives

Show me ONE case of a New Orleans nikka letting it off on Houston gang members and block boys like that. HPD was working around the clock to protect NO peeps from dudes like in the article.

Not to glorify any of this shyt, though I know you NO dudes enjoy the false hype you get from it. But what you sayin just ain't true. Time to put this bs myth to bed.
 
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beef was petty as fukk

Flip said nothing negative about T.I
Yes he did. I remeber I qqa qt the big jam(chicago) when j was a kid. And b4 game over dropped he grab the Mic and Told the crowd "Somebody tell t.i when he get out of jail I'm beat his ass" and then they would dropped the beat



Edit: my bad breh. I see you post is from 2 years ago.
 

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Lil flip killed lil flip
That double album was beyond trash and the only two good songs on it were the singles
Flip did kill Flip, after his Album with him Flipped upside down he became weak on the mic. His delivery was lazy. It kind of reminds me of how bad Snoop got after Tupac and Dre was no longer at Death Row. Both had glimmers of their old selves but nothing like their older music.
 
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