NBA crisis over declining TV ratings and why China is so important: "stagnant since 1998"

[boskey]

it’s talked about so much by the media because espn/Disney overpaid for its rights

If ESPN could get people to care about baseball and hockey they wouldve "overpaid" for those leagues too. There are only 2 national sports in American and they were already squeezing everything they could out of football. Thats why they went all in on the NBA

But I can say this much in my circle we talk about basketball far more than football all year long....

Yup.

Important to keep all this shyt in perspective. Even if NBA ratings completely fall off, literally the only thing thats at risk is the size of the player's contracts. The games will still get played, they will still be on TV and the people that care will still watch...

The only "crisis" is that owners won't get to sell teams for twice the amount that they paid

 

[cobra]

how did he over do it? Why wouldn’t stern market his best product to its maximum capacity. Maybe if anyone was able to beat MJ in the 90s sure, but he kept winning, was the most exciting player to watch etc.

If anything the league is suffering now from over marketing Lebron. He keeps loosing and they keep spouting this “best player” shyt. When they should have passed the torch a while ago.

They tried to pass it to steph curry in 2016

Back to back mvps; already an nba champion

If he won in 16, he would have been a finals mvp on a 73 win team ( the GOAT team)

He would have been credited for for revolutionizing the game with his threes

However, bron and kyrie fukked it up

 

[High quality poster]

Passed the torch to who? Who has been better than Lebron over the past years?

Durant. Curry. Now Giannis.

 

[ISO]

We told y’all when Lebron started forming super teams what the repercussions were. .

now it’s MJs fault Lebron couldn’t fill his shoes and carry the league fukk outta here

We told y’all when the league went away from ISO basketball to guys standing around jacking 3s and basically playing pick and roll all game what would happen

As a fan I’m not interested in that. I can watch college ball for that.

You stupid fukk read the article. LeBron pushes ratings dikk head

The leagues ratings were shyt in the iso ball era

 

[NatiboyB]

Durant. Curry. Now Giannis.

Lebron has been doing this for over 16+ years even Curry's dominance is short lived compared to that...Lebron is a major star and he isn't the only star but he is the Main star of the league and the NBA did not mess up by pushing him as such he is one of the goats.

 

[bnew]

This whole china story is a bunch of overrated bullshyt.

I cant understand how any of you are so worked up over 1 CAC's comment (who was right, by the way) and China overreacting to it.

The nba ain't going nowhere. A fukkin billion chinese ain't suddenly gonna stop liking basketball.

In a month this wont be a story.
Bury this topic in the bushes where it belongs.

its not about liking basketball, it's about keeping the NBA out of chinas market if they don't toe the party line. all foreign companies must partner with local businesses if they want to do business in china. right now almost all of the NBA's partners have suspended their partnership. China has their own league , the CBA.

 

[Remote]

its not about liking basketball, it's about keeping the NBA out of chinas market if they don't toe the party line. all foreign companies must partner with local businesses if they want to do business in china. right now almost all of the NBA's partners have suspended their partnership. China has their own league , the CBA.

NBA doesnt need china anyway. They want china. But they don't need it

And frankly if 1 mans comment kills a whole league's overseas prospects, then fukk them to begin with.

Ain't like they produced another Yao anyway
fukk em

 

[bnew]

NBA doesnt need china anyway. They want china. But they don't need it

And frankly if 1 mans comment kills a whole league's overseas prospects, then fukk them to begin with.

Ain't like they produced another Yao anyway
fukk em

i agree.

 

[FTBS]

The NBA/ESPN made the biggest mistake possible by overtly trying to make it a year round thing. Now the free agent speculation and terrible hot takes backed by analytics overshadow the actual games. It's good for twitter fodder, but honestly it really has become like baseball where the regular season games don't matter until you get closer to the playoffs. The NFL games matter week to week because of fantasy football, gambling, and because it's a chance for people to day drink and party all day on Sundays. While the NBA was chasing China the NFL pumped money into daily fantasy and now it's more popular than ever even after Kaep, Kareem Hunt whooping a girl's ass on video, the players being actually insane, Mason Rudolph damn near dying on the field last week. It doesn't matter.

None of that is new though. Fantasy is just a new take on gambling. The NFL is covered even more intensely year round. Compare NFL draft coverage to NBA draft coverage. NBA just caught up in that regard. Plenty of shytty NFL related takes. None of this has anything to do with how much bigger football is in this country. Football has more history, fewer games, and is more palatable to middle aged and older white men. It's always been this way.

 

[Regular_P]

It's kind of a catch-22 for the NBA in how it markets itself. You need some singular talent to be a real contender and people can usually tell pretty quickly whether a team has it or not. It's not like the other leagues where teams can improve over time w/o the very best players and become contenders.

There's been A LOT of tanking over the past 5+ years too. That had to have a major effect on ratings.

 

[O.Red]

The NBA/ESPN made the biggest mistake possible by overtly trying to make it a year round thing. Now the free agent speculation and terrible hot takes backed by analytics overshadow the actual games. It's good for twitter fodder, but honestly it really has become like baseball where the regular season games don't matter until you get closer to the playoffs. The NFL games matter week to week because of fantasy football, gambling, and because it's a chance for people to day drink and party all day on Sundays. While the NBA was chasing China the NFL pumped money into daily fantasy and now it's more popular than ever even after Kaep, Kareem Hunt whooping a girl's ass on video, the players being actually insane, Mason Rudolph damn near dying on the field last week. It doesn't matter.

Bolded is faaaaaaacts

 

[O.Red]

NBA viewership is currently tied with Esports...

fat incel CACs and asian nerds that play video games...

 

[RammerJammer]

The NBA/ESPN made the biggest mistake possible by overtly trying to make it a year round thing. Now the free agent speculation and terrible hot takes backed by analytics overshadow the actual games. It's good for twitter fodder, but honestly it really has become like baseball where the regular season games don't matter until you get closer to the playoffs. The NFL games matter week to week because of fantasy football, gambling, and because it's a chance for people to day drink and party all day on Sundays. While the NBA was chasing China the NFL pumped money into daily fantasy and now it's more popular than ever even after Kaep, Kareem Hunt whooping a girl's ass on video, the players being actually insane, Mason Rudolph damn near dying on the field last week. It doesn't matter.

To piggyback of the hot takes comment, don't forget the awful Top 5/10 of all time discussion that seems to dominate the NBA media at least once every season, that shyt is so tired. You don't see the NFL media being like "who's the best Brady or Montana?" "Who's the best Rice or Moss?" every single season. That shyt imo takes away from the players that are currently playing and to some it's like "if you're not in the GOAT discussion then you ain't shyt".

 

[mastermind]

They negotiated their last deal at the perfect time for the NBA. The next deal won't nearly be so favorable and that's why this Chinese market is so important.

The next TV deal will be bigger unless there is a global depression.

Amazon, Netflix, Apple, BeIN, DAZN, etc will now be serious bidders.

 

[pete clemenza]

Is it the NBA's fault or is it the glut of a million options in today's society? NFL, MLB, NBA, College football & Basketball, NHL, MLS, Netflix, Amazon, Youtube, PS/Xbox, etc. Yes the NFL is the king in America- Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays for 5 months of the year.. not a ton of games and the perfect setup. The NBA is what it is imo. Right now its for the hardcore fans, casuals will jump in after Christmas, the rest come playoff time. And I hated that NBC went haywire with Jordan back in the days but it printed money so I get it. I don't get what people expect all the time from the league. Outside of this China fiasco the league is doing great. I'm a NFL fan but its king cause of their tv contracts but they're global like the NBA is. In these other countries their soccer leagues are king(EPL, La Liga, Seria A, etc) one reason is that they don't have to fight for dollars, viewers, and complete against/with the likes of a NFL, MLB, College Football, and so forth. We're the only country on the face of this planet with a glut of pro and college sporting options.