Marcus Garvey Wrote a Letter to White Supremacist Earnest Cox Calling Negros Lazy

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There is a difference between adapting western ways into your OWN NATIVE culture and completely disowning your NATIVE culture for foreign WESTERN ones. Garvey wanted to do the later......

plus he was out here making statements of the highest form of betrayal/c00nery:russ::hhh:

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He was making a pretty factual statement on the state of Africa and black people at that time. It was relatively underdeveloped and black peoples were subjugated (hell today many still are). These are FACTS nikka. To get out from under that state of affairs would require adapting some western culture and technology.

And if you are African American, South American or Carribean you have already adapted western culture because it was imposed on you by force. It happened because your ancestors didn’t have the technology to fight it off.

You are a walking, talking hypocrite
 
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He was making a pretty factual statement on the state of Africa and black people at that time. It was relatively underdeveloped and black peoples were subjugated (hell today many still are). These are FACTS nikka. To get out from under that state of affairs would require adapting some western culture and technology.



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And if you are African American, South American or Carribean you have already adapted western culture because it was imposed on you by force. It it happened because your ancestors didn’t have the technology to fight it off.

You are a walking, talking hypocrite

"New World Blacks" are Westerners/Westernized by default but they're rooted in older African traditions that have been Creolized. Garvey looked down on the African-based elements that are a part of the stew in the Creolization process. He basically wanted to produce culturally "white" black people/black civilization:russ:
 

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"New World Blacks" are Westerners/Westernized by default but they're rooted in older African traditions that have been Creolized. Garvey looked down on the African-based elements that are a part of the stew in the Creolization process. He basically wanted to produce culturally "white" black people/black civilization:russ:

I try not to pay much attention to the activities of men in secret groups
Garvey and Dubois included
the maze can be too much for my understanding

what I will say though
is there was a time Garvey was pelted with stones like whilst preaching in jamaica

there are always folks who are AGAINST blk people uniting and getting stronger

when will we have a discussion about BLACK SELLOUTS?

as in those who sold their brothers in africa
those who told on their brothers trying to escape plantation
those who joined confederate armies
on and on and on

might you be missing a bigger picture here?
that YES in every generation and country there are some real sellouts

and was such from the beginning and is such now

they also exist on the coli
 

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I see someone is having their menstrual cycle right before our eyes :mjlol:

Came in here mad not even knowing what we are discussing

This is the most chest you puff outwards black men.

This carthetic for your bytch ass ness.


Are you that afraid you punk ass little bytch?
 

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Funny thing is, Dubois was the true Africanist of the two:sas2:


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George Padmore summed it up perfectly:


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Interesting, very much so.

One wanted integration with the world
the other
wanted Africans to operate as communist/socialists

tell me if I got that right

and if they were in Orders under Orders
was that really their ideas?

and if they both are "brothers"
then they were just play fighting
intellectual battles
questions of who would be king

could be argued they were too smart to beef
hence they were being dumb

in hindsight considering what you posted above

which economic model would have been best for the African people?
Garvey or Dubois?
 

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This is the most chest you puff outwards black men.

This carthetic for your bytch ass ness.


Are you that afraid you punk ass little bytch?

Oh stooooop. Now you’re being dramatic. You gonna cry? I’m not attacking black men, just you. Stop projecting

And the word you’re looking for is “cathartic” dumb motherfukker. Learn how to spell :mjlol:
 

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Oh stooooop. Now you’re being dramatic. You gonna cry? I’m not attacking black men, just you. Stop projecting

And the word you’re looking for is “cathartic” dumb motherfukker. Learn how to spell :mjlol:

fakkit ass night walking coward. Go drown piss dog fukker
 

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Funny thing is, Dubois was the true Africanist of the two:sas2:


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George Padmore summed it up perfectly:


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Dubois wanted integration for American Blacks which was never going to work. And pure socialism without economic classes like communism for Africans. Which was also never going to work. Capitalism is the best way wealth can be built. Then a hybrid system can be put in place similar to the nordic countries.


Garvey on the other hand wanted separatism. Which is the only way groups can gain power. He wrongly thought though that Christianity was a good idea to propagate in Africa. It's a pro-white religion and should be rejected.

Native monotheistic African religions that can replace Islam and Christianity should be promoted instead.
 
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Yesterday one person said MLK and the civil rights movement wasnt bout shyt
Marcus Garvey is now out the paint also

who next?

I look forward to the next one with full anticipation
I whole heartedly disagree with anybody down playing civil rights but
Web Dubois lowkey co-signed eugenics, booker t Washington tried to sabotage the niagara movement
Not saying they bad dudes but we have to look at history unemotionally, and some of are biggest figures will and should be called out
 

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I whole heartedly disagree with anybody down playing civil rights but
Web Dubois lowkey co-signed eugenics, booker t Washington tried to sabotage the niagara movement
Not saying they bad dudes but we have to look at history unemotionally, and some of are biggest figures will and should be called out

Keep in mind they were essentially BUILDING A PEOPLE
we were babies in a sense
the majority were prohibited from education

I give them a pass
a million passes
they were trying to figure things out
NO blueprint
NO internet

we have a difficult time today
the panthers had a difficult time

we have to put ourselves in their shoes
the information they had
their youth
them theorising and making mistakes

today though
we have little excuses
enough of us are educated and we have the greatest invention ever
the Internet

if those gentlemen could have communicated and debated in real time
things might have been different
 
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