Marcus Garvey was done so wrong

[IllmaticDelta]

He was OFF for-real.

Where was he getting the lack of racial pride from? Our ancestors had that and more. It has never been a problem for us to come together due to race. We had no other choice.

Garvey credited ADOS for having race pride; he just gave the credit to Southern white racism

That is why he liked the U..S and Black Americans - because of that.

facts!

To pit and encourage the white terrorist to do as they please (kill, rape, lynch) and say that the very Black people who built the U.S. (railroads and all) shouldn't be able to use/profit/etc is all the way out of line.

yup, super foul; another Afram leader went in him (garvey wanted him to join the UNIA but he turned it down) about that




William Pickens - Wikipedia

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and obviously Dubois gave him more work. Told Garvey he didn't know sh1t about the "American Negro" struggle and keep that West Indian caste nonsense in Jamaica

And to say this at the height of lynchings and where 4 out of 5 Black people were - and then take your ass back to the North and talk shyt -- no words.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

When I read about black men who went toe to toe against white supremacy before the invention of modern technology, it really puts into perspective how much we're bums.

Imagine if Garvey or Dessalines or Malcolm had social media and could communicate and conduct business on a global scale.

White racists were out there supporting Garveyhe was out there supporting white supremacy

 

[Henri Christophe]

Whites weren't scared of Garvey though.

They supported him.

Malcom yeah they were. They were scared of MLK too. Anyone Black who was for the betterment of their people -- and kept pushing no matter what. That is what scares them.

Maybe North American whites weren't "scared" because they didn't have colonial investments.

But the French white male & the British white male who had colonies in Africa & The Caribbean were most definitely on high alert.

and by extension, the North American white male who has always been allied with his European cousins was definitely never gonna allow his agenda to flourish domestically or abroad.

The North American white male was never in support of black men sabotaging the economic success of his European allies.... that would never happen in a million years.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Whites weren't scared of Garvey though.

They supported him.

Malcom yeah they were. They were scared of MLK too. Anyone Black who was for the betterment of their people -- and kept pushing no matter what. That is what scares them.

White racists were more scared of Martin than they ever were of Malcolm

 

[Henri Christophe]

White racists were out there supporting Garveyhe was out there supporting white supremacy

I dont view the everyday racist white as an opponent.

I'm talking about the white elite that have the power to wage war & sanction countries and communicate with other governments.

Not the dusty southerner with cavities in his teeth.

No, I dont believe the white elite were supporting Garvey. You sound nuts.

The European powers would've viewed that as an act of war from the United States.

 

[xoxodede]

Garvey credited ADOS for having race pride; he just gave the credit to Southern white racism



facts!



yup, super foul; another Afram leader went in him (garvey wanted him to join the UNIA but he turned it down) about that




William Pickens - Wikipedia

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and obviously Dubois gave him more work. Told Garvey he didn't know sh1t about the "American Negro" struggle and keep that West Indian caste nonsense in Jamaica

About to go learn about Pickens. I love learning about new people. I'm mad I haven't heard of him before.

 

[Budda]

Whites weren't scared of Garvey though.

They supported him.

Malcom yeah they were. They were scared of MLK too. Anyone Black who was for the betterment of their people -- and kept pushing no matter what. That is what scares them.

Whites who favoured integration yes, I don’t think any white elite would support any concept of pan Africanism, that doesn’t make sense, to control Africa is to control the world.

And if you’re trying to imply that Garvey wasn’t for the betterment of the black race, you’re categorically wrong.

 

[xoxodede]

I dont view the everyday racist white as an opponent.

I'm talking about the white elite that have the power to wage war & sanction countries and communicate with other governments.

Not the dusty southerner with cavities in his teeth.

No, I dont believe the white elite were supporting Garvey. You sound nuts.

The European powers would've viewed that as an act of war from the United States.

Can you explain?

All whites are opponents -- and are or have the potential to be dangerous. They ALL support and uphold White Supremacy. Even the poor ones.

Both White "elites" and poor whites supported Garvey. They were the main funders of American Colonization Society - Wikipedia

They saw Garvey as picking up the torch for them.

When Garvey's personal friend died he left his millions to ACS - in 1966 - he never gave up trying to get Black folks to leave.

Cox died of emphysema on April 26, 1966, in Richmond, Virginia.[2] With no heirs, he left all of his possessions to the repatriation movement.[6​

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I dont view the everyday racist white as an opponent.

I'm talking about the white elite that have the power to wage war & sanction countries and communicate with other governments.

Not the dusty southerner with cavities in his teeth.

No, I dont believe the white elite were supporting Garvey. You sound nuts.

The European powers would've viewed that as an act of war from the United States.

dude had racist white politicians in his corner

Whites who favoured integration yes, I don’t think any white elite would support any concept of pan Africanism, that doesn’t make sense, to control Africa is to control the world.

And if you’re trying to imply that Garvey wasn’t for the betterment of the black race, you’re categorically wrong.

you never heard of? American Colonization Society - Wikipedia

 

[Budda]

Can you explain?

All whites are opponents -- and are or have the potential to be dangerous. They ALL support and uphold White Supremacy. Even the poor ones.

Both White "elites" and poor whites support Garvey. They were the main funders of American Colonization Society - Wikipedia

They saw Garvey as picking up the torch for them.

When Garvey's personal friend died he left his millions to ACS - in 1966 - he never gave up trying to get Black folks to leave.

Cox died of emphysema on April 26, 1966, in Richmond, Virginia.[2] With no heirs, he left all of his possessions to the repatriation movement.[6​

The concept of Africans controlling African resources is not a concept that white people in control support that’s ludicrous, the CIA wouldn’t assassinate Lumumba if that’s the case, Europe and America benefit from the exploitation of Africa It’s peoples and it’s resources, it’s literally what has made them the world powers they are today,

 

[xoxodede]

Whites who favoured integration yes, I don’t think any white elite would support any concept of pan Africanism, that doesn’t make sense, to control Africa is to control the world.

And if you’re trying to imply that Garvey wasn’t for the betterment of the black race, you’re categorically wrong.

Trying to understand. Whites who never favored integration? That's all of them.

What were they scared of Garvey for? He was saying the same thing they were.

That Black Americans should not have any rights, be killed at will and no matter how long they have been in the U.S. (before it was the U.S.) and them building the U.S. -- and telling them to STFU and take it.

I am not speaking on Pan-Africanism. I am speaking on what Garvey was doing while in the U.S.

I am not sure what Mr. Garvey was doing. He may have wanted the best (or betterment) for the Black "race" --- but not Black Americans - based on his actions and views.

 

[xoxodede]

The concept of Africans controlling African resources is not a concept that white people in control support that’s ludicrous, the CIA wouldn’t assassinate Lumumba if that’s the case, Europe and America benefit from the exploitation of Africa It’s peoples and it’s resources, it’s literally what has made them the world powers they are today,

Oh, you are right.

I am not speaking on Africa. I am not even speaking on Pan-Africanism. I am speaking on Garvey and his actions and beliefs while in the U.S.

When you spoke on integration - I was under the impression you were speaking about the U.S. and U.S. only. As this is about Garvey in the U.S.

 

[xoxodede]

dude had racist white politicians in his corner




you never heard of? American Colonization Society - Wikipedia

But, they didn't support Pan-Africanism. They supported get Black Americans the hell out the U.S. by any means necessary.

They didn't care where we went really - just leave.

 

[Budda]

Trying to understand. Whites who never favored integration? That's all of them.

What were they scared of Garvey for? He was saying the same thing they were.

That Black Americans should not have any rights, be killed at will and no matter how long they have been in the U.S. (before it was the U.S.) and them building the U.S. -- and telling them to STFU and take it.

I am not speaking on Pan-Africanism. I am speaking on what Garvey was doing while in the U.S.

I am not sure what Mr. Garvey was doing. He may have wanted the best (or betterment) for the Black "race" --- but not Black Americans - based on his actions and views.

But you can’t dissociate that from Pan Africanism, Garvey wasn’t only saying black people should go back to Africa, he was preaching of an African state controlled by African people all of its resources without European intervention.

How could any white elite agree with that? When it’s through the pillaging of those same resources they made their empire and through the pillaging of resources and people’s they still exist as a super power today.

If we’re talking locally and nationally I can agree more so with you, of course, whites in the south wanted blacks to go back, this may be the only distinction, but to put Garvey into a box as if that’s all that he preached is wrong.

USA and Europe have been built based on meddling into others affairs, its why Gadaffi was killed it’s why Lumamba was killed.

Also a USA without Blacks is an obsolete one, the average rural redneck in Alabama might not understand this but the law makers do.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Can you explain?

All whites are opponents -- and are or have the potential to be dangerous. They ALL support and uphold White Supremacy. Even the poor ones.

Both White "elites" and poor whites supported Garvey. They were the main funders of American Colonization Society - Wikipedia

They saw Garvey as picking up the torch for them.

When Garvey's personal friend died he left his millions to ACS - in 1966 - he never gave up trying to get Black folks to leave.

Cox died of emphysema on April 26, 1966, in Richmond, Virginia.[2] With no heirs, he left all of his possessions to the repatriation movement.[6​

dude had racist white politicians in his corner




you never heard of? American Colonization Society - Wikipedia

Lets just agree to disagree.

If youre trying to convince me that the North American white male who sanctions and blackballs black nations and kills black leaders for sport, was somehow in support of Marcus Garvey establishing a global economic power base that would eventually destroy European rulership of the planet?.... you're wasting your time.

You nikkas are drunk.

We can agree to disagree.

During the colonial era, that would be seen as WAR.

If America was backing Garvey's plans, that would be seen by the French & the British as WAR & INVASION by the United States.

Just stop it.

Lets just disagree