Is it hard for people to consider their favorites being part of the issue?

[GOATpernick]

It comes up in every thread but as time goes by fewer and fewer people are gonna fukk with a show that is as corny (PG) as WWE. The top rated TV shows in the world all revolve around violence and depraved/fukked up characters (which is legit pretty sad but that's the way it is). The biggest box office movies are basically 2.5 hours of legit in your face nonstop action. So you can blame the talent for not being roided out maniacs or you can look at it logically and acknowledge that a bland weekly 3 hour show where nothing happens isn't going to keep anyone around long term.

You cant deny that the E is making tons of money now despite the corniness but catering to kids doesn't last forever because I know when I was like 10 years old I wasn't watching Sesame Street anymore, I wanted blood and titties ...not together tho

 

[jadillac]

at this point, I think the philosophy is, kids are born every day.

Some of them will become WWE fans, which in turn they'll get behind the current Cena or current Roman. They drive the merch biz. The rest of the older fans be damned, but they'll still support the product thru the WWE Network b/c it's so cheap.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

The writing is trash for the mos part. What's a BIG DOG? What's a "FREAKIN" Rollins? What's an UNDERDOG FROM THE UNDERGROUND? What is supposed to make me anticipate something at a PPV, if I've seen that match in some form or fashion in the 3 weeks leading up to that? shytty writing, the WWE forgetting what moderation is, and there not being legit competition for them is why the ratings are where they're at, not cause of this lame outdated smarky shyt a handful of coli losers always regurgitate.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

WWE hasn't been able to properly push a face for over a decade.

I guarantee as soon as they start doing full storylines with Finn Balor fans will lose interest.....just like they did with Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Nakamura, Banks, AJ, Bayley, every other face outside of Daniel Bryan over the past decade. Becoming a fans just turns talent into lesser versions of themselves in the WWE environment.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

People keep complaining about indy darlings but that's all the WWE has been signing for the last 5 years. If WWE didn't want indy guys they'd show up at bodybuilding contests, amateur MMA cards, and other sports outlets.

Let's no also forget that Vince divided the wrestling workforce in half when he bought WCW and then proceeded to do nothing with it.

Edit: In this day and age you have to really love wrestling or be on your last resort to make it to WWE, hence the Indy guys, second generation stars, and former athletes on the roster.

at this point, I think the philosophy is, kids are born every day.

Some of them will become WWE fans, which in turn they'll get behind the current Cena or current Roman. They drive the merch biz. The rest of the older fans be damned, but they'll still support the product thru the WWE Network b/c it's so cheap.

How do they get new fans though? A lot of kids found wrestling in spite of their parents, now people having kids are cord cutting like crazy.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

What bias? I haven't watched WWE at all since before wrestlemania

What does people thinking SD is a better show to do with the fact that SD has been seen as inferior by fans and the company for years? I really don't care about this dumb SD vs Raw shyt yall be on because I think they're both subpar

Raw doing better ratings than SD has nothing to do with the quality of the show. Raw will always be the bigger show like it always has been. It's like expecting battleground to do wrestlemania numbers, the shows just ain't on the same level perception wise.

This is a flat out lie.

So when smackdown was putting up better ratings than raw back during the smackdown six era, you telling me that ratings has nothing to do with quality of the show???

Some of y'all are full of Sh!t.

 

[jadillac]

How do they get new fans though? A lot of kids found wrestling in spite of their parents, now people having kids are cord cutting like crazy.

I just think kids will always find it.

And when you get the kids, thr parents HAVE TO spend.

I have a cousin, he's 10, when he was 8 he was a HUGE fan. Even tho he barely watched Raw he loved John Cena and then Roman Reigns. His mom threw him a WWE themed bday party, life size Cena cutout, wrestling "tickets", to enter, figurines, etc.

Now...2 yrs later i dont think he even watches period, lol

 

[JerseyBoy23]

I just think kids will always find it.

And when you get the kids, thr parents HAVE TO spend.

I have a cousin, he's 10, when he was 8 he was a HUGE fan. Even tho he barely watched Raw he loved John Cena and then Roman Reigns. His mom threw him a WWE themed bday party, life size Cena cutout, wrestling "tickets" to enter etc.

Now...2 yrs later i dont think he even watches, lol

I guess if they can sustain that they'll keep living but they need to be creating life long fans. Most of us started watching when we were 7 - 10 years old and they hooked us to the point that we're talking about wrestling on a Hip Hop forum.

 

[Spyro]

Well, having a bear wrestle on Raw isn't going to help anything

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Another thread complaining about "indy darlings" right after WWE had their most successful year in 2016?

Yes that's why today's product is being heralded as great.

Because it's successful.


The wwe have different avenues of accumulating money now more than ever.

The wwe didn't have a film studio, a wwe network, YouTube, reality show on E!, etc back during the attitude era.

 

[mrken12]

I guess if they can sustain that they'll keep living but they need to be creating life long fans. Most of us started watching when we were 7 - 10 years old and they hooked us to the point that we're talking about wrestling on a Hip Hop forum.

For most people here non-WWE promotions have sustained our passion for wrestling.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

This is a flat out lie.

So when smackdown was putting up better ratings than raw back during the smackdown six era, you telling me that ratings has nothing to do with quality of the show???

Some of y'all are full of Sh!t.

The last time SD beat Raw before earlier this year was 2005, 12 years ago. Pretty sure by 2005 the SD Six era was over. So just like the majority of your other posts, you're wrong again. I don't know how someone can constantly post and is always terribly wrong, yet puff their chest out. It's like Trump tweeting.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

The last time SD beat Raw before earlier this year was 2005, 12 years ago. Pretty sure by 2005 the SD Six era was over. So just like the majority of your other posts, you're wrong again. I don't know how someone can constantly post and is always terribly wrong, yet puff their chest out. It's like Trump tweeting.

This isn't even a rebuttal to what I said.

Some of y'all tryna act like there's no correlation between ratings & quality of a show which is a flat out lie.

The attitude era is considered wwe`s best period of quality & ratings showed that.

That whole cartoon character period in time for the wwe back in the early 90s, the company quality wise was at one of it's worst & the ratings reflected that.

Some of y'all need to make up you're mind.

Either ratings matter or it don't, but stop bringing it up outta convenience cuz you wanna bash the product.

 

[Champagne Kudo]

This is a flat out lie.

So when smackdown was putting up better ratings than raw back during the smackdown six era, you telling me that ratings has nothing to do with quality of the show???

Some of y'all are full of Sh!t.

Of course it did. But that was also over a decade ago . Plus wwe was actually decent at making guys look like stars back then. And over that decade+ they've ingrained in the fans that SD is the B show. Doesn't help that they continually raid the show whenever it starts to do good for itself either.

It's funny you mention the SD6 era tho. They had alot of great talent that helped make SD be a better show but what ended up happening after awhile? They ended up on Raw like everybody always does because at the end of the day that's what WWE cares about.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

This isn't even a rebuttal to what I said.

Some of y'all tryna act like there's no correlation between ratings & quality of a show which is a flat out lie.

The attitude era is considered wwe`s best period of quality & ratings showed that.

That whole cartoon character period in time for the wwe back in the early 90s, the company quality wise was at one of it's worst & the ratings reflected that.

Some of y'all need to make up you're mind.

Either ratings matter or it don't, but stop bringing it up outta convenience cuz you wanna bash the product.

Actually that's the part I was referring to. You said "So when smackdown was putting up better ratings than raw back during the smackdown six era, you telling me that ratings has nothing to do with quality of the show???" Smackdown WAS NOT PUTTING UP BETTER RATINGS THAN RAW THEN. It was the better quality show around that time, yet Raw was still the higher rated show. So no, ratings and quality DON'T have a direct correlation, especially in 2017. That was the whole damn point of the post. Attitude was considered the best era cause it had tons of great characters to invest in and good-great writing, even if the matches weren't much to write home about. If you're gonna respond, please provide some logic and facts, and not just arbitrary statement.