Is it hard for people to consider their favorites being part of the issue?
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WWE needs to get bacc to pure sports entertainment, that in ring shyt they trying to kick is boo boo
Bryan is a once in a lifetime type of star. Problem is he came from the indies and indie fans think all of their guys can be like Bryan if given a chance.
I'll say it again, Bryan became a star when he was in his last heel run with AJ. Way before the beard. That's just when marks jumped on him, after casuals already bought into the work he did to get over.
Now WWE is listening to them and pushing all of their guys and surprisingly boring guys like Steen and Generico don't move the needle doing that ROH shyt in the big leagues. It is not surprising Jericho came through with his 15 year old list gimmick and crushed the buildings right beneath Owens' big push.
You guys can blame the talent all you want, but its the storylines. These guys are given scripts for their promos, to go with some of the lamest writing by a TEAM of dudes from Hollywood, to go with an out of touch Vince who is stuck catering to the kids. It's a trap at this point, and it will never change. All of these "indy" stars you guys say "aren't moving the needle", had huge IT factors before they got their IT factors neutered in the Fed. The guys from the Attitude era that moved the needle? They didn't get neutered, and the writing actually promoted the edgy characters and TV we all long for right now.
I challenge anyone who has watched all 3 of the following to say it's the talent and not the writing right now:
A) Attitude era
B) Today's era
C) Today's era of stars before they were in WWE compared to their characters after WWE
I challenge anyone who has watched all 3 of the following to say it's the talent and not the writing right now:
A) Attitude era
B) Today's era
C) Today's era of stars before they were in WWE compared to their characters after WWE
The scripted promos shyt is bunk. A lot of dudes are going to benefit from it since like 70% of the roster spent the first decade of their careers never having to cut a promo. Secondly, go back to the 80s and 90s and you'll see that most people were scripted back then, too. Just because Rock/Austin/Hogan/Macho/Warrior weren't scripted doesn't mean that most of the rest of the roster wasn't either. Golden Era WWE in particular is full of clearly scripted to the word promos from interviewer and talent even sometimes with the Hogan/Warrior/Savage crew.
I notice whenever it's time talk about the wwe declining raw is the only brand brought up.
Nakamura not moving unit no matter how bad y'all try to portray him as this superstar. The sh!t don't translate on the main roster.
A lot of these vanilla midgets & generic wrestlers don't make the cut. Guys like Finn balor, sammi zayn, Dolph ziggler, etc
Putting a world title on jobbers like jinder mahul ain't doing nothing either in the grand schemes of things.
Real nikkas tune in when the real stars come out to play. People watch shows to see stars.
Guys like Lesnar & Goldberg are prime examples.
The wwe give these marks what they want & they make excuses for that ex TNA wrestler or that ex roh wrestler or that ex NJPW wrestler who ain't moving units like that.
Maybe there's a reason why their asses was stuck there in the first place while real stars were like cena, Batista, Orton etc were holding it down for the wwe.
Finn Balor sold out shows everywhere in NXT. Business declined in nxt going back to the day he left. Essentially this thread is saying that Paul Levesque is stupid , and get back to the Ted Dibiase Jr days
WWE serves every kind of wrestling fan.
Tanahashi Coates
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Nakamura not moving unit no matter how bad y'all try to portray him as this superstar. The sh!t don't translate on the main roster.
The fukk is this, Soundscan?
I'll take the obvious 
bait you laid out. Outside of the person you're dikkriding, there's only one other wrestler with a legit fighting background. Besides that, his merch is a consistent top seller. But he doesn't move "units" 
Here Comes the Pain
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The fukk is this, Soundscan?
Lesnar>>>>>>>> Nakamura
No bait, just Facts
Here Comes the Pain
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The fukk is this, Soundscan?
Gentleman Jack Gallagher should be WWE Champion, I agree
Here Comes the Pain
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View media item 12443This is bs.
As many times that I've seen some people say smackdown is better cuz of 2hr instead of 3hrs & better writing.
Y'all make excuses when it's convenient. Way too many.
The fact is that Raw garner more interest than smackdown which is the reason why it does lower ratings.
Y'all biasness won't allow y'all to admit it tho.
This man said nxt
Sure did. He's proved his worth as a star. Fire all the people named in the OP and bring back Ted Dibiase, Cody and Chris Masters, business would hurt bad, and ROH/NJPW would gain. Vince and Paul aren't stupid, which is what you're inferring.
Here Comes the Pain
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If guys like ko, Finn balor, Seth Rollins etc are the best representation of star power in today's time then this says a lot about where this company is at currently.
None of these dudes are real stars. Just guys with clout from the indy scene. Nobody`s gonna tune in every week off the strength of none of these wrestlers.
You know the standards have been significantly lowered when the wwe had dudes like the rock, Austin, taker, lesnar, batista, mankind, etc
People would tune in to a wwe show to mainly see what Austin gonna do or what the rock gonna say next.
That's real star power. Real stars command attention.
