How do we help or deal with all the disgruntled young men in the country?

[Cloutius Maximus]

Exactly. The real reason the Red Pill content exploded with young men is because of SEX period. That's it. It's not even about marriage or stability. It's about feeling left out of hookup culture and getting laid.

Every young man desires to get laid and, when they don't, they start looking for tips on how to do it. Then, it leads them to a rabbit hole in which there's some deep rooted societal issue that explains why they're not getting laid. That's the real reason for its explosion in popularity albeit there are good self improvement channels in that space that cater to a different target audience.

And, like you said, the nature of the hyper-capitalism of America means that men who haven't spent time preparing for the rat race will suffer the consequences of being left behind.

There's certainly a conversation that can be held about how to balance socialism and capitalism in a way that can offset some of this. But, ironically, Red Pillers are such Right leaning/"anti woke" shills they wound up simping for hardcore capitalism and bashing socialism even if their own target audience isn't thriving under hardcore capitalism. Go figure.

As I said before, though, the notion that a feminist or liberal can stop young men from applying to any field they desire to get into is just fantasy garbage.

If ex-convicts can enter programs that can give them jobs, so can young men. The barbers are begging. The plumbers are begging. The truck drivers are begging. The Air Force is begging. The auto mechanics are begging. The medical field is begging. The warehouses are begging. Amazon is begging. Culinary schools are begging. Hell, even H&R Block is begging.

No blue haired dyke on Twitter can stop you from applying and getting a position there. It's ironically "feminine" to even insinuate this. :mjlol

And, like I've said, I helped young men in real life with education and employment. So, I'm not talking down but I'm talking realistically.

If a young man stayed underemployed or unskilled for all of his 20's, then that's simply a voluntary decision that he'll have to pay the consequence for.

It's deeper than just economics tho. I saw a chart that shows a direct correlation between education and inceldom i.e. men with just a high school dipoloma where the least likely to be incels, men with PHDs are the most likely. There are exceptions but I think it's safe to say most men with PHD's are doing well for themselves financially.

You got to remember women are going for what they are attracted to and while money plays a huge factor especially after 30, there are less tangible things like social status, charisma, "aura", swag, being the leader of your friend group, etc. From 18-25 those factors are far more important than money. There are dudes making 300k at Google that can't get laid unless they pay for it.

Getting men to make more money is relatively easy if they put in the work and have a long-term plan. Becoming a man that women desire isn't quite as straight forward and it will be harder for some men than others regardless of them being a good dude, or intelligent, hard working, etc.

There are good women (on paper) who like scumbag dudes and dudes with high social clout (life of the party) because those men get their coochie wet. You can get young women without clout but you better be exceptionally handsome and/or entertaining. We can be honest and tell men to either become more like those men, try to find one of the minority of young attractive women who don't like scumbags and popular men from 18-28, become a passport bro or do the sugar baby/escort thing.

 

[Neuromancer]

I believe its collective societies way of leveling out the amount of single males in society before they rise up and over throw the government.

That probably sounds crazy.

Ngl it doesn't

 

[Dance_Like_A_Fiend]

By actually listening to what they have to say. It’s not that hard lol

 

[Scientific Playa]

The best you can do is set an example and just deal with the youngens in your fam and close proximity to you.
All the negativety their minds are exposed to is a challenging mission to counter.

 

[bigsausagepizzapapi]

Kareem had a great write up about this recently.

Young Men Are in Crisis Mode and Fox News Abandons Pretense of News

Southern Baptists Boot Women, School Superintendent Boots Education, AI Can Make You Lonely and Drink, Gerry & The Pacemakers Sing

kareem.substack.com

 

[Neuromancer]

Basically men need to form networks and help other men. This would be dam near impossible because it goes against men naturally selfish nature. Men need to save themselves in a nutshell.

I don't think men are naturally selfish. If that was the case we wouldn't have civilizations. I think American individualism is an issue though. I could be wrong. But at some point men learned to work together why is it different now?

 

[Neuromancer]

Men need to stop looking to women for 'support'..thats one of the main issues right there.

We have a lack of male only spaces. And when we get them well...

 

[ThatTruth777]

lack of good paying entry level jobs and the busting/demonetization of unions
you could throw feminist misandrist attitudes in there which is a problem but if the money was right most dudes wouldn't give a fukk imo

 

[Neuromancer]

Kareem had a great write up about this recently.

Young Men Are in Crisis Mode and Fox News Abandons Pretense of News

Southern Baptists Boot Women, School Superintendent Boots Education, AI Can Make You Lonely and Drink, Gerry & The Pacemakers Sing

kareem.substack.com

He was on point. I love the If poem. Read it at my dad's funeral.

I think men may need to go back and lab what it is to be a man. Account for biology and individuality as well as communal effect.

 

[Neuromancer]

Idk. Seems like a lot of angry men are just miserable and depressed inside. A lot of them feel like they are inferior and unable to compete, which is why redpill stuff is popular to them.

Nothing happens in a vacuum. We need to ask more questions of them.

 

[Iverson_64]

Where you think the strong father's and male figures went? How come these men aren't encountering them?

That's a very complicated issue.

Unfortunately, even outside the Black community, there's been more out of wedlock births, homes lacking paternal involvement, and men in general taking an individualistic approach to life instead of a collectivist one.

This is contributing to the issue at hand because a lot of young men are feeling "disillusioned" by things that they've would've already known if they had a strong male figure helping them go through the ropes.

 

[Neuromancer]

Unfortunately, even outside the Black community, there's been more out of wedlock births, homes lacking paternal involvement, and men in general taking an individualistic approach to life instead of a collectivist one

Maybe we should look into that? Why have men in general taken more individualistic approach as of a late as opposed to earlier generations? That might help solve the issue?

 

[RaspberryFitted]

I cannot speak to this as me nor my friends are married but have S/O's. But this is a place for action not hurt feelings. Let's stay on topic.

It’s not hurt feelings and the fact that you took it as that speaks more as to why this thread is pointless.

I’m literally TELLING you how most young men feel which correlates to why they don’t give a fukk about guidance or but you dismiss it as being emotional.

 

[8WON6]

tell them they aint shyt even harder and expect things to change.

 

[Neuromancer]

It’s not hurt feelings and the fact that you took it as that speaks more as to why this thread is pointless.

I’m literally TELLING you how most young men feel which correlates to why they don’t give a fukk about guidance or but you dismiss it as being emotional.

I don't look down on young men. I mentor a few myself. I don't get these reactions. So we can agree to disagree.