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Both of these groups see black men as privileged.

And in our society when we deem someone as being privileged, we tend to render them invisible and take away their voice.

 

[AAKing23]

90 percent of the shyt in here has been talked about before on the Coli

 

[invalid]

So ultimately Black first is the most sensible way to go, but this would require us to believe and trust that brehs will actually address our concerns when the Black agenda is achieved, and not take their newfound respect and power and use that to make moves in mainstream culture without US by their side.*

I think this is the way to go. And I have faith in black men that they would address the concerns of our community as I think black men are the most egalitarian men of all the races.

I tend to look at our situation like a company. There is a business term called "tone at the top". Upper management sets the tone of culture at a company. If upper management is dysfunctional, toxic, and incompetent, that trickles down and becomes the culture of the company. If they are servant leaders, ethical, value integrity, competent, that likewise trickles down.

Black men, whether we realize it or not, are still the leaders of our community. Because we are in a dysfunctional state, that dysfunction trickles down into the culture of our community.

I believe that if we can address the concerns of black men, it will give them space to lead and right the ship, which will open up more space to addressing the concerns of black women, children, and others.

 

[Reflected]

That's not really realistic though given that the Senate is 50/50 and two of the Dems lean conservative. That's another issue with discussing politics on the coli

A lot of posters here don't understand that Democrats are a "large tent" party vs. the GOP hivemind

GOP aren't more effective because they are 'smarter' really.. it's because they are all middle aged to older white people who all wax poetic about when whites had no competition with other races.

On the Dem side you need a lot of different types of people to agree on an agenda.

I definitely recognize the Dems as big tent, I converse with neolibs often , so I know a big tent when I see one. I'm not so unaware that I think Manchin and Sinema are the lone disruptors of progressive legislation, I know there are legislators that can rely on their votes as a safety net while they vote "yes" on bills and maintain their incumbency. But you are cropping out the rest of my comment, I recognize the expansion of the courts as a controversial opinion, but it needs to be made clear to the left, that's moderates, liberals, progressives, etc., that the Republican party is a "hivemind" as you put it that needs to be combated at every level and in the most partisan fashion, those who can't fall in line with that idea need to be replaced. You only need attention to this recognition and with that, the votes.

Expansion of the court is far from unrealistic, imo, I can think of many things that are unrealistic, and this coming from someone that culls most of my views, with regards to attention, because I know what is unobtainable and what is obtainable with the American public. Is expansion unrealistic with the current senate makeup? Of course, that's why we have to put in work and drill it until it becomes a possibility. Honestly, I'm for incremental progression because I recognize it's all that can really be done at the moment in America, but if you think expansion unrealistic beyond the current senate makeup, then every major political battle that needs to be won in America to improve overall well being might as well be forfeited and the country with it. I'm not ready to sign on to that idea, especially with the current trends.

 

[Ol’Otis]

Bernie Mac is overrated

Remind me to neg you

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

You think? I kinda feel the opposite. I remember being told about a persons vacation once, and the amount they kept repeating ‘and’ had me

Read half the sentences, and thread titles here, Twitter, and in regular conversation.

He sleep

He over there

Where they at

 

[CarmelBarbie]

I've touched on this topic a couple times but I don't feel like doing it again lol y'all can keep believing average looking black nerds have tunnel vision for anything short of IG hoes.

Yet somehow in another thread where cats get clowned for not hollering at everything walking, y'all will dap brehs talking about "I see eleventy zillion average black couples every day"

No, we’re just trying to understand why that particular poster who said he’s a nerd but said he felt like he could get a white or Asian dime easier than a black dime, feels entitled to a dime in the first place. I don’t know what he looks like, but if he isn’t super attractive himself why does he feel entitled to a dime of any race? If getting a dime his priority then he isn’t checking for the average women like you may be.

 

[Kenny West]

I wonder how familiar bw are with this faction. I don’t get on social media like that so I’m not aware of who online is considered a loud pro-black man besides Omar. But I wonder if the issue is maybe there aren’t as many “loud” Omar’s or they are loud but not heard the same way as the c00ns.

I know from what I’ve seen, bw do support Omar. But I don’t know who else besides Omar belongs to that subsection. I think to your point, bw pay attention to mainstream bm (rappers, athletes, celebs) but I wonder if it’s because the mainstream are the loudest—they’re in a position to be seen and heard everywhere, so they get their messages across.

But bm who aren’t apart of the mainstream and don’t feel like those men, just aren’t being heard. It could be because they don’t have the clout, popularity or platform like mainstream men do. There could also be a lot of men who feel like Omar but they don’t have the same platform, or visibility.

Based on how I’ve seen bw support Omar, I wonder if pro-black men
we’re more visible to bw feminists, if that would make a difference.

As far as hoteps go, I thought the mocking is because of other issues—I.e. the hoteps using/taking advantage of black people to get money, etc, have multiple wives, infidelity and running strange extreme cults, or secretly were messing around with white people.

I know many bm offline who love bw, so I agree with you—a lot of times people get on the internet and get in a strange bubble where they forget what happens in their real lives offline. I also think media conditioning and influence is strong. This latest generation is living their lives on the internet.

This goes back to my point above. People get online and seem to forget what’s actually taking place when they step outside. It’s weird.

Goes back to my other two comments above. Also keep in mind some of these women don’t have fathers actively involved, or enough positive male figures in their lives at all.

I also hear more of the distrust for Brehs from the younger generation of women, who are consuming tons of media (especially online). I don’t think it’s a coincidence.

I agree. I can’t pinpoint when the distrust began either.

Omar? You mean Umar johnson?

I mean grifters aside people were buying in on black pride in the late 80s/early 90s. Social media grifters may have a lot to do with poisoning the image of dashiki nikkas for people nowadays but the grifters were biting a style that was already made.

 

[Dance_Like_A_Fiend]

No, we’re just trying to understand why that particular poster who said he’s a nerd but said he felt like he could get a white or Asian dime easier than a black dime, feels entitled to a dime in the first place. I don’t know what he looks like, but if he isn’t super attractive himself why does he feel entitled to a dime of any race? If getting a dime his priority then he isn’t checking for the average women like you may be.

What I mentioned was that Asian and white dimes are more open to homely/nerdy/corny brehs than black dimes and that dime black women get with the non-black version of the breh they’d reject. Nothing about me in particular, At all. I even mentioned how this argument has been had all over the internet for over a decade and not one single picture of a black dime with a corny/nerdy breh that proves it wrong. Then the discussion somehow got deflected to nerdy black women.

while we’re on the topic though, I think it’s disingenuous to claim black nerds aren’t checking for their counterparts. I mentioned in an earlier post that any black woman, nerdy or not, is going to have men from all races and shapes and sizes trying to court her as long as she isn’t horrifically overweight or sloppy. The same can’t be said for male black nerds. Or any men, as most men don’t have the dating luxury as their female counterparts except the guys at the top. In fact, most men below that top would drop whatever bullshyt requirement they have if the first woman that looks good to them passes them by because a lot of men can’t afford to be picky.

Also, and I’m gonna get a lot of hate for saying this, but I think any breh that has a good job, a stable life, and is not horrifically ugly or sloppy does deserve a dime’s attention. Not talking about myself since I need to specify that, but right off the top of my head there was this thread about a guy on Twitter that made six figures, well put together, but couldn't get a date. One and only woman that responded to his post called them ugly, but I’m sitting here thinking he deserved the instagram models more than most of the guys they get with and have babies by.


On a side note, I th

 

[Wild self]

Black folks need to get off of that materialism wave altogether.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

nikkas in here really in the feelings cause they can't date a non-black woman and bump they gums about how pro-black they are

 

[Street Messiah]

nikkas in here really in the feelings cause they can't date a non-black woman and bump they gums about how pro-black they are

nothing but truth here. just like all these women talkin about they are single because they have standards and will not settle.... reality is no one wants them for anything more than gettin a hands free nut off

yall don't have options thats why yall talk shyt like "only black queens for me, id never lay down with a cac"

 

[3rdWorld]

A man has to be at minumum 10 years his woman/girls senior for the relationship to last long term.

You cannot marry your highschool sweetheart.

 

[DallasTxRep]

Martin Lawrence isn't funny .

Currently? Or never was?

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

A lot of people got smoke for uncle toms like larry elder, but a lot of uncle toms aren't even in the community like that and aren't doing damage, they over there c00ning in peace, for the most part. Also, we need some balance. Ain't nothing wrong with listening to someone who's views you don't agree with, that makes you more well-rounded.