Cade Cunningham Calls Pistons 'Bad', Says Competitive Level Is 'Unacceptable'

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I think he maxxes out as a poor man's Luka, which is a good player to be sure but not a #1 guy on a team that's gonna win anything

Yeah, dude was definitely elevated because of the Luka hype.

Problem is Luka is taller/tankier, more fluid and just has something special to his game.
Additionally, Luka was a true point guard from the start.
I think Giddey is a more natural point guard as well.
Cade was a forward turned point guard more seriously mid-high school.

I think Mobley would've been the consensus #1 had Luka, Anthony Edwards and LaMelo not went crazy the prior three years and turned heads.
Additionally, Wiseman and Ayton falling short hurt the bigs.

Now everyone looking for point centers and point power forwards: those 6'10 ball handlers with passing and shooting skills bringing the ball up and leading the point of attack. Guards need to be nimble to move around the court and have great shooting to play off of these guys.

Additionally, I said it before, but that draft was highly overrated while the 2022 draft was highly underrated.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

If you look at detroit and houston, you'd think they'd be on the same trajectory but the difference is that houston signed respectable vets. Detroit is the youngest team in the league.

They shouldn't ignore this element of teambuilding, IMO.

Respectable vets still wouldn’t have Detroit where they need to be. They’ve done a poor job at drafting.

I don’t like the narrative that you need high picks to find more tailor made players as it’s a cop out excuse for poor player development.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Ivey doesn’t start because his defense is flat out terrible and with his athleticism it shouldn’t be this bad .Monty is right to make him compete and earn his minutes . Ivey ain’t some all star lock ..he’s raw as hell

Neither him or Killian can shoot and are iffy fits next to Cade but Killian is a better defender and highkey the best distributor on the team.

Killian didn’t play yesterday,Ivey started and the pistons had the least amount of ball movement all year and played the worst defense they’ve played all year.


As far as Cades comments are concerned I’d respect it more if it came from Stewart or Ausar because it’s times where Cade don’t look like he want to be out there his damn self .Larry Brown would’ve killed that nikka

 

[CarltonJunior]

Respectable vets still wouldn’t have Detroit where they need to be. They’ve done a poor job at drafting.

I don’t like the narrative that you need high picks to find more tailor made players as it’s a cop out excuse for poor player development.

I mean, they've done what they can. Cade was actually picked over Green as the cornerstone piece. Duren is decent if not good, Ivy I think we can't judge, Killian sucks, Ausar seems to off to a decent start.

Rockets young core of Green, Jabari, Sengun and Amen isn't night and day that much better on paper, it's really about coaching and the other guys surrounding them, IMO.

They just don't have a fred van vleet to provide a consistent everyday work ethic and production output, and a guy like Dillon to help with culture and creating a competitive edge.

I don't buy that detroit has drafted that much worse than houston at all actually, it's just a losing culture there right now

 

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Ivey doesn’t start because his defense is flat out terrible and with his athleticism it shouldn’t be this bad .Monty is right to make him compete and earn his minutes . Ivey ain’t some all star lock ..he’s raw as hell

Neither him or Killian can shoot and are iffy fits next to Cade but Killian is a better defender and highkey the best distributor on the team.

Killian didn’t play yesterday,Ivey started and the pistons had the least amount of ball movement all year and played the worst defense they’ve played all year.


As far as Cades comments are concerned I’d respect it more if it came from Stewart or Ausar because it’s times where Cade don’t look like he want to be out there his damn self .Larry Brown would’ve killed that nikka

Larry Brown would have also worked out a lot of the terrible decision making by now too if he had him as long as Casey did.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I mean, they've done what they can. Cade was actually picked over Green as the cornerstone piece. Duren is decent if not good, Ivy I think we can't judge, Killian sucks, Ausar seems to off to a decent start.

Rockets young core of Green, Jabari, Sengun and Amen isn't night and day that much better on paper, it's really about coaching and the other guys surrounding them, IMO.

They just don't have a fred van vleet to provide a consistent everyday work ethic and production output, and a guy like Dillon to help with culture and creating a competitive edge.

I don't buy that detroit has drafted that much worse than houston at all actually, it's just a losing culture there right now

That Houston rockets young core is much better on paper with Segun being the best of the bunch. That's also not accounting for other young dudes on the roster that at least show potential as role players that weren't top picks. Those vets helped them take the next step, which is what you're supposed to do as a young team.

It's fine that you don't draft stars or superstars, but at least show some semblance that you know what you're doing in drafting role players. Detroit hasn't even really shown they can do that.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Larry Brown would have also worked out a lot of the terrible decision making by now too if he had him as long as Casey did.

That’s exactly what im referring to. That first half yesterday was horrible..Stats wise Cade was good but the shyt he was doing out there was selfish as hell .. He was flat out looking off nikkas that was wide open to shoot contested turn around middies and sideline floaters .. All I kept hearing was “play the game the right way “ in my head . If the nikka open ..hit him with the pass and let him fukk up . Just make the right choice .build the right habits . Larry held nikkas accountable

Which made me realize why Killian be out there .. he looks like the only other nikka Cade trusts with the ball in his hands . Ball movement is fine when he’s there


And I’ll give Monty credit because In the second half it was obvious that someone said something to Cade because all that silly shyt stopped..the problem was that those other nikkas was ass juice

 

[#1 pick]

I mean, they've done what they can. Cade was actually picked over Green as the cornerstone piece. Duren is decent if not good, Ivy I think we can't judge, Killian sucks, Ausar seems to off to a decent start.

Rockets young core of Green, Jabari, Sengun and Amen isn't night and day that much better on paper, it's really about coaching and the other guys surrounding them, IMO.

They just don't have a fred van vleet to provide a consistent everyday work ethic and production output, and a guy like Dillon to help with culture and creating a competitive edge.

I don't buy that detroit has drafted that much worse than houston at all actually, it's just a losing culture there right now

Sengun is night and day better than any Piston.

Then the key vets are all better than Cade.
Brooks and FVV.

Jabari still finding his way, Duren is better.

Thompson Twins cancel out each other.

Green isn't much different than Cade.

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Sengun is night and day better than any Piston.

Then the key vets are all better than Cade.
Brooks and FVV.

Jabari still finding his way, Duren is better.

Thompson Twins cancel out each other.

Green isn't much different than Cade.

Yeah if I had my pick of anyone on both rosters, I'm taking Sengun, then probably Green, then Cade.

Pistons have a bottom 3 roster in the NBA

 

[#1 pick]

Their basketball IQ is too low.

They got a lot of talent and athleticism

 

[#1 pick]

Yeah if I had my pick of anyone on both rosters, I'm taking Sengun, then probably Green, then Cade.

Pistons have a bottom 3 roster in the NBA

Pistons got too many bad players without a LeBron to clean up the mental errors

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Their basketball IQ is too low.

They got a lot of talent and athleticism

That's my thing, I don't even expect them to be good but they don't even play like a fun exciting team that's good to watch on League Pass but loses 55 games

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Yeah if I had my pick of anyone on both rosters, I'm taking Sengun, then probably Green, then Cade.

Pistons have a bottom 3 roster in the NBA

Sengun I understand.

Green over Cade is wild .Both inefficient but at least Cade can defend and playmake (when he’s not being a dikkhead )

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Sengun I understand.

Green over Cade is wild .Both inefficient but at least Cade can defend and playmake (when he’s not being a dikkhead )

I think Green is probably the better pure scorer but Cade is better at every other facet of the game. Both are horribly inefficient as of now but I think the ceiling is a tad higher with Green, JMO

 

[#1 pick]

I think Green is probably the better pure scorer but Cade is better at every other facet of the game. Both are horribly inefficient as of now but I think the ceiling is a tad higher with Green, JMO

Yep