What's up with people hating on "Man of Steel"?

[Norrin Radd]

WB gonna fukk around and have every one of their movies have the same tone no matter whether it fits or not

 

[Roman Brady]

WB gonna fukk around and have every one of their movies have the same tone no matter whether it fits or not

thinking it will replicate the success of TDK

 

[Supercoolmayo]

Movie was depressing as hell

 

[BXKingPin82]

WB gonna fukk around and have every one of their movies have the same tone no matter whether it fits or not

dark ass Wonder Twins movie

 

[Jello Biafra]

One more thing that is off topic, the next person that calls CA:TWS a political thriller needs to kill themselves.

Co-sign. That annoyed me from the first moment Marvle started touting it as a "political thriller" and when the more sheepish stans started repeating it.
TWS was a good ass movie but it was as much of a political thriller as G.I. Joe: Retaliation was.

 

[Panther]

You brehs hate everything.

Wasn't perfect but far from trash (I actually liked it overall)

Only complaints I have are Pa Kent, Lois (poorly written and unattractive) and the movie was a lil long.

Folks complaining bout supes portrayal like he wasn't always dry and boring. He feels more human in this one imo, and I suppose that's the point

Zod was dope and how was there not supposed to be hella destruction? It's 2 super powered nikkas going at it? nikkas flying at high speeds and shooting laser beams and no one is supposed to die? Supes got a fukking train threw at him for Christ sakes

 

[Emoryal]

The movie was average. I don't know why y'all act like people can't have their opinions about something though.The score and final fight scene were dope but everything else was Eh to me.

 

[klutch2381]

I've spent a lot of time thinking about what makes a "great," story? I've spent a lot of time thinking about why I disliked MoS too. Generally, it's really good character driven plot. Whether it's the bible, Hercules, Citizen Kane, Amadeus, Whiplash, Casino, Goodfellas, Toy Story, Godfather 1 or 2, Momento, Othello, etc. It's this advancement of the external world by the character's foibles, strength, evolution or devolution that creates that external reality. In MoS the plot is driven by the plot -- things just happen because they "need" to happen. shyt is just shoehorned into the movie to say,"Hey, crossed that off the list." MoS is a very hollow and emotionless movie for that very reason.

I mean things like this:

Why is Superman so smitten with Lois Lane in this film? I'm not talking about general context. We all know the Lois Lane and Clark Kent ark. I'm asking what about this iteration of Clark Kent would make him fall so deeply in love with this iteration of Lois Lane -- in this particular movie? She shows up to the ship, gets hurt and he's basically in love with her from there. There's no setup to the romance through development. It's just something that happened because it had to happen. Moreover, out of the 2-3 times that she was hurdling to the Earth and Superman saves her; if she had actually hit the pavement and died would you have cared at all? I do not mean sheer shock. Did you have one zilch of emotional investment in her character?

Why is Superman even "Superman?" Like, what's his motivation(s) for doing so? He certainly doesn't have to be Superman. This is something MoS doesn't try to answer. It's kinda like, "Hey, I got this dope suit and shyt I from this ship. I might as well use it . And my dad says this S means hope."

Superman is who is his because of his parents, particularly, Pa Kent. In MoS Pa is like . I could live with that if Superman's motivations were explained in some other meaningful way, but they're not.

So, when scenes like this happen:



Which should have a real emotional gravitas with the audience because it's Superman doing some heroic shyt that no one else could do, beautiful score, and dope visuals. It's stalls out at just being a cool looking scene. In order for people to really connect with the character they have to understand consciously or subconsciously where that character is coming from. "Aw, man, Superman taking that asswhooping because... ."

MoS still is more so like, "Superman taking that asswhooping because....


But, here's another scene of a character doing some heroic shyt that supposedly only he could do:



Everyone is familiar with Jesus and his ideals. You understand his motivation(s) for enduring that asswhooping in the context of that scene. I'm a legit non-believer, but if I'd be lying if I said that scene isn't status for the aforementioned reasons.

I don't mind Superman killing Zod or the damage to the city. What I do mind is that the "how" in regards to even getting to that point is wholly unsatisfying and incomplete.

Editor's notes: I am not a Marvel or DC stan. Superman is probably my favorite comic character.

It's deeper than rap.

 

[GRIMEStheMENACE]

Man of Steel is wonderful movie what I really love about it is it how it accurately depicted how a fight between two powerful beings should be depicted. Amongst all live action super hero movies, it really has the best fight scenes. The only thing I can think top it is Batman v. Superman. If you saw the trailer, Batman taking down all those people was on point.

Example:

Man of Steel Fight


Marvel Compilation Fight

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

I've spent a lot of time thinking about what makes a "great," story? I've spent a lot of time thinking about why I disliked MoS too. Generally, it's really good character driven plot. Whether it's the bible, Hercules, Citizen Kane, Amadeus, Whiplash, Casino, Goodfellas, Toy Story, Godfather 1 or 2, Momento, Othello, etc. It's this advancement of the external world by the character's foibles, strength, evolution or devolution that creates that external reality. In MoS the plot is driven by the plot -- things just happen because they "need" to happen. shyt is just shoehorned into the movie to say,"Hey, crossed that off the list." MoS is a very hollow and emotionless movie for that very reason.

I mean things like this:

Why is Superman so smitten with Lois Lane in this film? I'm not talking about general context. We all know the Lois Lane and Clark Kent ark. I'm asking what about this iteration of Clark Kent would make him fall so deeply in love with this iteration of Lois Lane -- in this particular movie? She shows up to the ship, gets hurt and he's basically in love with her from there. There's no setup to the romance through development. It's just something that happened because it had to happen. Moreover, out of the 2-3 times that she was hurdling to the Earth and Superman saves her; if she had actually hit the pavement and died would you have cared at all? I do not mean sheer shock. Did you have one zilch of emotional investment in her character?

Why is Superman even "Superman?" Like, what's his motivation(s) for doing so? He certainly doesn't have to be Superman. This is something MoS doesn't try to answer. It's kinda like, "Hey, I got this dope suit and shyt I from this ship. I might as well use it . And my dad says this S means hope."

Superman is who is his because of his parents, particularly, Pa Kent. In MoS Pa is like . I could live with that if Superman's motivations were explained in some other meaningful way, but they're not.

So, when scenes like this happen:



Which should have a real emotional gravitas with the audience because it's Superman doing some heroic shyt that no one else could do, beautiful score, and dope visuals. It's stalls out at just being a cool looking scene. In order for people to really connect with the character they have to understand consciously or subconsciously where that character is coming from. "Aw, man, Superman taking that asswhooping because... ."

MoS still is more so like, "Superman taking that asswhooping because....


But, here's another scene of a character doing some heroic shyt that supposedly only he could do:



Everyone is familiar with Jesus and his ideals. You understand his motivation(s) for enduring that asswhooping in the context of that scene. I'm a legit non-believer, but if I'd be lying if I said that scene isn't status for the aforementioned reasons.

I don't mind Superman killing Zod or the damage to the city. What I do mind is that the "how" in regards to even getting to that point is wholly unsatisfying and incomplete.

Editor's notes: I am not a Marvel or DC stan. Superman is probably my favorite comic character.

It's deeper than rap.

Zoe's character was more developed than superman's which is why I felt his reasoning more than supeman's and the fact that Russell Crowe was basically alive was the biggest plot conscience I've ever seen in a movie

And based on the trailers for BvS the whole beef between the two are

The whole story arc seems rushed for obvious reasons but they could've done a better job. At the end of the day man of steel should've was basically two movies rushed into one. Zod was one of the best villains of all time in this flick and should've gotten a full sequel. But I guess DC felt compelled to go all in on this flick in the same way Sony did with spider man.

 

[B!tchuoffendingme]

The critics were out of their fukking minds hating on this movie: though I notice half of their reviews refuse to judge this movie as a solo film, and opt to compare the film unfavorably to different interpretations of Superman/Clark Kent.

The first 20 minutes of the movie make for a spectacular opening. They couldve done a boring monologue, but they chose an amazing prologue filled with weighty performances from Russel Crowe and Michael Shannon. Even the actor that plays Kal-El's mom brought heat.

The first two thirds of the movie are an incredible balance of dramatic flair grounded in human emotion:
Superman testing his abilities while reconnecting with his father, Kevin Costner as Pa Kent sacrificing his life to protect his son's secrets, General Zod's first contact with humanity, all of it was incredibly well done.
Faora is a bad ass.
My only complaint is that Lois Lane is underused as a character and the film has entire stretches with no humor to offset the dramatic seriousness. I dont want corny Marvel one liners that undercut moments of seriousness or anything, but some levity wouldve been appreciated.
I also felt the perfect balance of action and human drama was compromised in the final 20 minutes, where its a self indulgent CG spectacle between Zod and Superman.
"This only ends with one of us dead", says Zod. Well, yeah, obviously. That fight couldve done with editing.

But other than that, great movie. The more I think about it, the more similarities there were between this movie and Black Panther:
-an exceptional ensemble cast
-a villain with clear and compelling motivations whose goals are more than "world domination"
-a unique culture thats fleshed out and realised through tech, philosophy and costumes.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The critics were out of their fukking minds hating on this movie: though I notice half of their reviews refuse to judge this movie as a solo film, and opt to compare the film unfavorably to different interpretations of Superman/Clark Kent.

The first 20 minutes of the movie make for a spectacular opening. They couldve done a boring monologue, but they chose an amazing prologue filled with weighty performances from Russel Crowe and Michael Shannon. Even the actor that plays Kal-El's mom brought heat.

The first two thirds of the movie are an incredible balance of dramatic flair grounded in human emotion:
Superman testing his abilities while reconnecting with his father, Kevin Costner as Pa Kent sacrificing his life to protect his son's secrets, General Zod's first contact with humanity, all of it was incredibly well done.
Faora is a bad ass.
My only complaint is that Lois Lane is underused as a character and the film has entire stretches with no humor to offset the dramatic seriousness. I dont want corny Marvel one liners that undercut moments of seriousness or anything, but some levity wouldve been appreciated.
I also felt the perfect balance of action and human drama was compromised in the final 20 minutes, where its a self indulgent CG spectacle between Zod and Superman.
"This only ends with one of us dead", says Zod. Well, yeah, obviously. That fight couldve done with editing.

But other than that, great movie. The more I think about it, the more similarities there were between this movie and Black Panther:
-an exceptional ensemble cast
-a villain with clear and compelling motivations whose goals are more than "world domination"
-a unique culture thats fleshed out and realised through tech, philosophy and costumes.

It's a classic. There were more positive reviews than negative but who cares about that, the audience reception was great and it had an A cinemascore. It's being remembered fondly. The CGI in this kills any CGI since.. over the last five years.

 

[Cladyclad]

This movie is fukking amazing.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

WB gonna fukk around and have every one of their movies have the same tone no matter whether it fits or not

guess not lmao

 

[Still FloW]

GREATEST comic book origin EVER !!!

far better than any supes film, nikkas just mad cause he not a corny reeves clone..

Snyder flexed and made one of the best grounded supes film ever.. thats why you haters cant stop talking about it.. when has anyone brought up iron man 1 in ANY discussion??