What are the chances of AOC running in 2028 and winning?

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I would love for that to happen. Let the moderates merge with Republicans and bring back the Democratic-Republican Party.
All of the progressives and start the Progressive party
AOC isn't a progressive. She's a career Democrat. She never has and never will betray the establishment.
I doubt it, now if you want to talk about her and Bernie saying fukk the democrats, forming their own party, and forcing the mainstream democrat nominee to kiss the ring for their endorsement to unite the progressive and the democratic wings.

Yes, you might have something there.
Neither is Bernie. He is literally the definition of a career Democrat. He stole money from the working class in 2016 and 2020 only to lay down and spread his ass for the Democratic establishment.
 

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AOC isn't a progressive. She's a career Democrat. She never has and never will betray the establishment.

Neither is Bernie. He is literally the definition of a career Democrat. He stole money from the working class in 2016 and 2020 only to lay down and spread his ass for the Democratic establishment.
Proof?
 

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Low-key at least one major third parties makes a lot of sense to me. I could even see there being 4 parties. The system that we had in place can’t survive Citizens United. Pelosi and Schumer low-key are trash outside of internal machine politics and the traditional republicans don’t even have a voice under MAGA.
I was wondering if it could. Democratic Party doesn't feel like a left leaning party outside of the few progressives in the party. They are like liberal Republicans
 

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I was wondering if it could. Democratic Party doesn't feel like a left leaning party outside of the few progressives in the party. They are like liberal Republicans
A three party system has existed before. A Neoliberal party, a Progressive party, and the MAGA party.
 

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thats Old school mentality before people got entrenched in culture wars.

You are not winning very many republicans bc it’s no longer a battle of liberal or conservative fiscal policies, big or small government, foreign policy etc but a battle of religion, culture and race.

Most these folks would rather learn Chinese than vote democrat.

I’ve heard republicans say that trump is a dumb ass and bad for us and still admitted they voted for him.

Dems need to focus on low info voters and independents + their base.
Yeah the Democrats have been chasing after these nonexistent conservative voters instead of young people, independents, and first time voters.
 

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Aoc was not beating Trump. Democrats have ran women in 2 of the last 3 cycles. The country is moving to the right, if a far left woman runs in 2028 they will lose every single state



I hate centrist politics but I’m also pragmatic about this country
Most of America have expressed that too. Trump ran as a populist that was anti-establishment and the DNC are content with using the losing strategy of old with running a neoliberal who isn't well liked. They got lucky in 2020 because of covid. Bernie had the popularity with the bases they wanted but they completely shut him down through the media and within the party.
 
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Dems do not need a woman running period

When u motherfukkers going to wake up and realize white men and Latino men and even some black men are not voting for a woman.

Majority of your voters live outside of the major cities and nobody outside of women, gays and some weak men will go out here and vote for a chick, especially since the Supreme Court is all set
 

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Dems response to rightward moves is to move to the right. Reagan lead to them rejecting the New Deal and adopting neo-liberalism - i.e. Clinton and then Obama.

Because it's not about policy with the Democrats, it's about politics, who holds the power.
Yeah Democrats are a lost cause at this point :snoop:
Why would conservatives vote for Republican-lite and they can vote for the real thing?
 
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