What's the ideal Progressive ticket in 2028?

[br82186]

Josh Shapiro I think is Dems' strongest candidate. His personality is very moderate even conservative but his policies are mostly liberal. PA is such an important state too.

I think Jon Ossoff could be interesting if he wins GA by a decent margin in 2026. He has an Obama-esque aspirational youth quality to him.

Ro Khanna's politics I think are well positioned for where the electorate is right now, not sure he's the ideal candidate, but he is good on the issues.

Gretchen Whitmer likewise is a popular governor in an important swing state

I feel like all of these feel like VP candidates though, no one feels like the alpha.

People who I think wouldn't be good:

Gavin Newsom - I don't think dude understands how much of a tool he comes off as. Leaning into Cali is not a winning strategy for Dems right now.

Pritzker - too fat and unlikable to win

AOC - too much of an internet personality, I think she would find outside of social media she's not that popular. The median voter is like a 50 year old cac from suburban Milwaukee.

I think either way JD Vance will be a tough candidate to beat. He is a more polished, smarter Trump. Dems bench is deep but not sure it's strong enough at the top.

Only way Vance wins is if Thiel and Musk pull the shyt that they did in the leadup to this past election, other than that the party is fccked once Trump is gone.

 

[the cac mamba]

Whitmer/Beshar

NO. MORE. WOMEN.

 

[the cac mamba]

Also, have you forgotten about AOC, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Talib? What about Justin Pearson and Justin Jones in Tennessee?

we're all aware that progressives only win in dark blue areas. that's the point

 

[the cac mamba]

Only way Vance wins is if Thiel and Musk pull the shyt that they did in the leadup to this past election

this is a terrible attitude. vance is shameless, handled walz with ease in the debate, appeals to swing state whites, and if trump does well with the economy, he definitely isn't "easy to beat"

of course there's a universe where trump fukks up, and vance is tainted. but thats no guarantee. tge country was fine pre-covid

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

NO. MORE. WOMEN.

1. This would be for VP which has worked before.

2. Clinton had baggage and Kamala didn’t do a primary to garner recognition to connect with middle America. Plus neither had big visions or ideas to resonate with voters.

 

[Loose]

Only way Vance wins is if Thiel and Musk pull the shyt that they did in the leadup to this past election, other than that the party is fccked once Trump is gone.

They won't win the united states have flipped from regime to regime the last 40 years. The US population has become disillusioned with democracy. Trump will be hated by 2028

 

[CrimsonTider]

1. This would be for VP which has worked before.

2. Clinton had baggage and Kamala didn’t do a primary to garner recognition to connect with middle America. Plus neither had big visions or ideas to resonate with voters.

And they were going against Trump

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

And they were going against Trump

Correct and Trump can’t run anymore so there you go

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Beshear / Big Gretch

 

[Ciggavelli]

I kinda agree that a woman can't win the next presidency. We've tried twice and failed (to Donald fukking Trump). I like Newsom, but he can't win a general election because, well...CA. Shapiro might be the best bet. I like AOC, but she can't win a general either.

 

[Loose]

I kinda agree that a woman can't win the next presidency. We've tried twice and failed (to Donald fukking Trump). I like Newsom, but he can't win a general election because, well...CA. Shapiro might be the best bet. I like AOC, but she can't win a general either.

Blaming women candidates is the lazy argument that I expect most people to take from these elections. Not the fact that trump is the change candidate and have been curated as America's celebrity

 

[Ciggavelli]

Blaming women candidates is the lazy argument that I expect most people to take from these elections. Not the fact that trump is the change candidate and have been curated as America's celebrity

Trump was great at marketing. He's great at that. But the general population is dumb and misogynistic. People that follow politics seriously are few and far between. We think everybody thinks like us, but they don't. The general public are low information voters. We need to appeal to them somehow. Trump clearly did that. I dunno about going against JD Vance. He's clearly smart. He could probably make some bullshyt arguments that sound good. We need to counter that. AOC could probably do it, but she is a woman. I hate that America can't elect a woman. It's bullshyt, but it's just the way it is. It's sad, but most of the American electorate are dumb. Most people don't follow politics like we do. We need to appeal to those people. I dunno how, but that is the answer

 

[the cac mamba]

Blaming women candidates is the lazy argument

it's also the real, tangible election result argument, and historically tangible argument, but feel free to get offended about it

or are you saying that hillary and kamala, and their supporters, were wrong to blame sexism after their losses

 

[Dillah810]

it's also the real, tangible election result argument, and historically tangible argument, but feel free to get offended about it

People also thought a black person couldn't be elected president and would point to Shirley Chisholm and Jessie Jackson's failed efforts as proof. Like dude said, the idea that a woman can't be elected is a lazy takeaway.

 

[the cac mamba]

People also thought a black person couldn't be elected president and would point to Shirley Chisholm and Jessie Jackson's failed efforts as proof. Like dude said, the idea that a woman can't be elected is a lazy takeaway.

well, like obama, maybe a woman will prove herself by going out and actually beating a full field in the primary unlike the awful coronations of hillary and kamala

but i won't be voting for women, in any primary. it's counterproductive