What are the chances of AOC running in 2028 and winning?

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Dems response to rightward moves is to move to the right. Reagan lead to them rejecting the New Deal and adopting neo-liberalism - i.e. Clinton and then Obama.

Because it's not about policy with the Democrats, it's about politics, who holds the power.
 

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Maybe we should stop running centerist who try to appeal to republicans


Aoc was not beating Trump. Democrats have ran women in 2 of the last 3 cycles. The country is moving to the right, if a far left woman runs in 2028 they will lose every single state



I hate centrist politics but I’m also pragmatic about this country
 

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Maybe we should stop running centerist who try to appeal to republicans
This. We call undecided voters dumb, and to an extent they are, but they know enough to know that the standard quo is not working and they want change.

Dems need to listen to Bernie and stop trying to appease “old fashioned” republicans. Appease the people more, address their immediate, day to day concerns.
 

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Well it's not that I disagree with you.
I would have preferred Bernie. And on some level I might even prefer AOC to Newsom.

But until a lot of these older, establishment candidates and congressmen retire or die off, it's going to be hard for someone like AOC to get the political support.

We may not be far away though. The boomers are in their 70s and 80s now.
It's frustrating that these old fukks would rather let America burn than listen to the people. It reminds me how Vince McMahon tried to force the audience to get behind a wrestler and would bury other wrestlers for getting over with the audience without his input. Ratings dropped and people stopped showing up until he stepped down and let some new blood take over
 

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This. We call undecided voters dumb, and to an extent they are, but they know enough to know that the standard quo is not working and they want change.

Dems need to listen to Bernie and stop trying to appease “old fashioned” republicans. Appease the people more, address their immediate, day to day concerns.
I think a lot of posters here are stuck in that mindset too of needing a moderate of a certain type to run. Probably an age thing.
 

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I doubt it, now if you want to talk about her and Bernie saying fukk the democrats, forming their own party, and forcing the mainstream democrat nominee to kiss the ring for their endorsement to unite the progressive and the democratic wings.

Yes, you might have something there.
I would love for that to happen. Let the moderates merge with Republicans and bring back the Democratic-Republican Party.
All of the progressives and start the Progressive party
 
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Trumps 1st term had America desperate enough to vote for a brownskinned woman VP. Four more years could possibly double their desperation.
 
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I think a lot of posters here are stuck in that mindset too of needing a moderate of a certain type to run. Probably an age thing.
thats Old school mentality before people got entrenched in culture wars.

You are not winning very many republicans bc it’s no longer a battle of liberal or conservative fiscal policies, big or small government, foreign policy etc but a battle of religion, culture and race.

Most these folks would rather learn Chinese than vote democrat.

I’ve heard republicans say that trump is a dumb ass and bad for us and still admitted they voted for him.

Dems need to focus on low info voters and independents + their base.
 

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I would love for that to happen. Let the moderates merge with Republicans and bring back the Democratic-Republican Party.
All of the progressives and start the Progressive party
Low-key at least one major third parties makes a lot of sense to me. I could even see there being 4 parties. The system that we had in place can’t survive Citizens United. Pelosi and Schumer low-key are trash outside of internal machine politics and the traditional republicans don’t even have a voice under MAGA.
 

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She kissed the ring a long time ago.

Horrible career politician who sold out the base that got her elected.

Everything about her is fabricated, she came from an upper middle class household and moonlighted as a working class "Latinx"
 
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