UPDATED: DRAKE - SCORPION - 740k total activity, 150-160k album

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Trust the Riaa or the coli:jbhmm:

Smh, what you're really asking is "trust the RIAA or Nielsen Soundscan?"

In the past, when we only had physicals to go off of, the RIAA tended to find ways to pad out numbers, most specifically, the whole "gold and platinum certification from albums SHIPPED" thing. This is the reason why so many artists received certification without actually SELLING anywhere near what the album actually scanned. In current times, the RIAA are the ones that consider year old songs' streams and sales to be part of an albums overall number, not Soundscan. They specialize in padding numbers to make artist look better than they are. Another of their padding practices is the double album counting as two sales.

Soundscan actually tracks album sales. It's that sinple. These projections are indicative of Soundscan tracking. That bogus ass immediate platinum certification is some RIAA bullshyt (months old streams + double album).

Soundscan tracking >>> RIAA "tracking"
 

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Smh, what you're really asking is "trust the RIAA or Nielsen Soundscan?"

In the past, when we only had physicals to go off of, the RIAA tended to find ways to pad out numbers, most specifically, the whole "gold and platinum certification from albums SHIPPED" thing. This is the reason why so many artists received certification without actually SELLING anywhere near what the album actually scanned. In current times, the RIAA are the ones that consider year old songs' streams and sales to be part of an albums overall number, not Soundscan. They specialize in padding numbers to make artist look better than they are. Another of their padding practices is the double album counting as two sales.

Soundscan actually tracks album sales. It's that sinple. These projections are indicative of Soundscan tracking. That bogus ass immediate platinum certification is some RIAA bullshyt (months old streams + double album).

Soundscan tracking >>> RIAA "tracking"
Why shouldnt songs like gods plan or for what count to the overall album count? Theyre already on it. If youre going to count streams in the first place, then all streams should be counted

The debut sales numbers are irrelevant to the overall album success
 

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Why shouldnt songs like gods plan or for what count to the overall album count? Theyre already on it. If youre going to count streams in the first place, then all streams should be counted

The debut sales numbers are irrelevant to the overall album success

Soundscan don't count those prerelease numbers. Drake is well aware of this as well as the facts that 1) he knows most fans don't know the difference between the two and aren't privy to the smoke and mirrors and 2) he was well aware of the RIAA's loopholes that boost numbers, hence why he tacked Hotline Bling to the end of Views. This is all for perception. Hov knows this as well, hence him being able to get away with it for two albums straight (though, technically in his case his numbers were bought by two corporations [Samsung with MCHG, then Sprint with 4:44], despite this, Neilsen do NOT recognize these in his overall numbers).

These Billboard chart positions and numbers Drake stans loooove bringing up come from Neilsen Soundscan, not the RIAA. On the other hand, the certifications they love boasting about come from the RIAA.
 
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It's not even about Drake riding, but more about the industry of streaming as a whole.

Back then you'd need to sell actual units for sales. Now it's a certain number of streams that equal a sale. What I'm getting at is that number of streams can ebb and flow based on what ever someone feels is an "accurate" portrayal.
No you didn’t need to actually sell records, the label could report what they wanted to through their own venues.
they do it for everybody to boost their own brand. it just happens that drake is their biggest artist and raps about codeine and what not.
the whole streaming business from spotify to youtube is fugazy
I don’t know if you understand how irrational this is. Apple has a revenue of 250 billion or something, Apple Music is a little side project. They are not risking their stock and major investor fraud cases for Apple Music and specially not black peoples well being.
 

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150-160k pure sales is a flop for an artist of his caliber no matter how you spin it :mjlol:
It’s not a flop all it’s means he is more of a streaming artist which most artist are of this generation because that how most people are consuming music these days if you have Apple Music,Spotify or tidal you are streaming more than buying
 

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Why shouldnt songs like gods plan or for what count to the overall album count? Theyre already on it. If youre going to count streams in the first place, then all streams should be counted

The debut sales numbers are irrelevant to the overall album success

Okay then, back when you could buy CD singles in the store, all them shyts should be padded onto whatever album they came off and then there's alotta albums that should be Diamond right now...
 

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It’s not a flop all it’s means he is more of a streaming artist which most artist are of this generation because that how most people are consuming music these days if you have Apple Music,Spotify or tidal you are streaming more than buying

More Life did 506K with 225K pure. The dominant shift for streaming over downloads hasn't been THAT drastic in only a year's time. Cardi did 255/102. Timberlake did 293/242. Kendrick did 600/353. Kanye did 208/85. Cole did 397/174. So you want to do about 40 percent of total numbers in downloads/physicals. First week streams usually include the people who ending up buying pure, and there are alot of factors to look at.

In this case, the music clearly isn't up to par with past Drake releases, which correlates with why it has done so shyt in pure sales. People streamed it, and weren't fukking with it, thus didn't support the artist. And if you believe all the stans in the discussion thread saying the album is bananas, there is no other explanation aside from that Pusha T did some real damage to his public perception. Also it was a double album, so stream numbers are inflated there also.

You guys have to remember when any kind of huge artist comes out, even the most CASUAL music fans are gonna put it on for a listen through at least once. Drake has that benefit right now. The pure sales really tell the tale of if people were feeling your project, or are just starting to wane on you in general.
 
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