Universal Healthcare (M4all): Italy’s government chooses if you live or die with/out the Coronavirus

[F K]

private hospitals still had open beds for ppl and gave them away.

Italy's health system at limit in virus-struck Lombardy

they did not have capacity issues in anyway.

in fact, UK is about to have the same issue. They need more beds bc they’re filling up to capacity. They’re public system is overwhelmed

Private hospitals that take private insurance have plenty still.

Boris Johnson to evoke Winston Churchill in a plea to private hospitals | Daily Mail Online


I get you may have grandiose ideas on how M4all will work. But the facts are the facts.

interesting phenomenon. we'll have to see if private hospitals are able to perform as well in the U.S when they are the primary providers of care and not an auxiliary option. Definitely something worth watching over the next couple of months.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

typical biden boi ladies and gents.

 

[DEAD7]

l
the original point, before all of this digression is that Governments can run healthcare systems efficiently and effectively as has been proven in countries around the world.
The market sometimes, but does not always allocate resources better than the public sector.

 

[Dr. Acula]

This isnt an issue of universal vs no universal healthcare. It's an issue of structural capacity in the presence of a crisis. The healthcare system is overwhelmed.

 

[DEAD7]

Tell Bernie and his bros that

 

[F K]

Tell Bernie and his bros that

an anti bernie person started this thread

 

[F K]

if you have proof that private systems outperform public systems feel free to share.

 

[DEAD7]

if you have proof that private systems outperform public systems feel free to share.

Government has conveniently made that impossible.
But as someone already said, we are going to see how America’s system holds up.

 

[F K]

Government has conveniently made that impossible.
But as someone already said, we are going to see how America’s system holds up.

holland is all private

 

[F K]

Government has conveniently made that impossible.
But as someone already said, we are going to see how America’s system holds up.

The Netherlands has universal health insurance — and it’s all private

 

[NZA]

our economy is killing people due to lack of healthcare every year already. we should all be outraged, covid19 or not

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Italy is having an epidemic disease crisis that has overloaded their system.

OP notices that private hospitals still had room available that they were refusing to house patients in, even in the midst of a crisis.

OP uses that as evidence that private hospitals are a morally superior option.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Someone who thinks that the American status quo is better because we have private insurance really needs to ask OP who he thinks is filling up Italy's hospitals. Old people, chronically sick people, and poor people, right? Well....what insurance do old people, poor people, and chronically sick people have in the USA? Medicare? Medicaid? Or no insurance at all?

And he thinks patient dumping doesn't happen in the USA?

Patient dumping: why are patients disposable?

Patient dumping a symptom of health system woes

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...t-dumping-still-a-problem-despite-federal-law

 

[Warren Moon]

Italy is having an epidemic disease crisis that has overloaded their system.

OP notices that private hospitals still had room available that they were refusing to house patients in, even in the midst of a crisis.

OP uses that as evidence that private hospitals are a morally superior option.

nope. I’m staring everyone should have a right to go to private or public hospitals.

which in its current state happens, even with Medicare.


No one said anything about being morally superior. U reached that conclusion on ur own.

m4all also restricts what region u can even go to. If there’s a doctor who focuses on servicing your daughter who has a rare form of cancer in another state. U can go there.

 

[Red Shield]

Warren thought he had a thread with this