Their social welfare systems and overall apparatus shyt on ours tho
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I think whats being stated is the rise in teen birthrates, and breakdown in the nuclear family coincided with the introduction of welfare.
...are you suggesting that welfare has in fact lowered the teen pregnancy rate?
not at all. simply pointing out the problem with drawing any inference from the correlation between the two. Even if we suppose that welfare caused teen pregnancy to sky rocket. It seems clear that in the last two decades we've figured out how to mitigate that theoretical influence.
At any rate its important to understand that an increase in the non-married or teen birthrate can be caused by a rise in actual teen/unmarried births or by a decline in the overall birth rate.
This is exactly why the US is declining in every possible way
When you at the top, ain't nowhere to go but down, brehbreh
Seriously tho, its not because of diversity our numbers are declining, its out country being divided and the struggle of what path to take that keeps us from making progress in any real direction. You can't tell me if our country was truly united at a goal, with our numbers and resources, that we couldn't achieve that goal quicker than any other country in the world?
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It should also be noted that marriage rates are at historic lows. 60% of unmarried births occurred in cohabiting unions. The "evidence" that an increasing number of children grow up in fatherless homes doesn't pass muster.
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When you at the top, ain't nowhere to go but down, brehbreh
Seriously tho, its not because of diversity our numbers are declining, its out country being divided and the struggle of what path to take that keeps us from making progress in any real direction. You can't tell me if our country was truly united at a goal, with our numbers and resources, that we couldn't achieve that goal quicker than any other country in the world?
The mentality that the US is on top of anything is what causes the decline.
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yeah thats a good point, i dont really cosign the idea that out of wedlock birth is the end of the world, it might just be a new norm
but anyways as far as teenage pregnancy, that is bad no question, and it did go down after welfare reform
you disagree?
It was going down before that from what I can tell. Also there were concerted efforts by community and local governments to promote sex education/family planning services etc. which should not be discounted. Providing birth easy access to birth control is going to have a more direct impact on unwanted pregnancy than welfare imo. I really doubt teens are thinking "Its ok to have unprotected sex, the govt. will pick up the bill." They're most likely not thinking much about the long term consequences of their actions at all.
I agree it "doesnt past muster", but I don't think the fact that single parent homes has increased is flat out wrong.
I'll dig up some studies on it and get back to you.
Looks like rate has increased... do you have a link to some data showing otherwise?
http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2010.html
http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2010.html
- 19.5% of households with children were headed by a single parent in 1980
- 29.5% of American households with children were headed by a single parent in 2008
You saw what you wanted with that quote. I didnt state women are having more kids. I stated they are having kids with no worries of being able to properly raise them. How can you get having kids with no worries to having a lot of kids?.Women are having less kids now then ever before. Teen pregnancy rates are at a historic low. In other words
Also, its not just about teen pregnancy its women in their twenties also. Welfare basically helped fuel the rise in the single parent.
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didn't see the 1980 numbers, can you link to the specific data?
Also from http://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...867,133,38,35,18/10,168,9,12,1,13,185/432,431:
Definitions: Children under age 18 who live with their own single parent either in a family or subfamily.
In this definition, single-parent families may include cohabiting couples and do not include children living with married stepparents.