Things in hip hop that are so forgotten they feel retconned

Hersh

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I brought this up I think, but this was when Roc-A-Fella/Dame Music Group at the tail end signed Joe Budden, Raekwon, Nature, Nore and a bunch of other people and they did a freestyle together. But Roc was pretty much over at this point and it was a last ditch effort, and nobody talks about it.


got the tape?
 

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I guess it really depends on the person. I'm from Queens and I knew tons of people who became Nas fans through IWW and I Am as opposed to Illmatic. Ilmatic was like Shawshank Redemption: Lowkey from the start but eventually became a widely known classic.

"If I Ruled The World", "Street Dreams", "Hate Me Now", and "Nas Is Like" got a lot of casual rap fans into Nas. I agree that Nastradamus sort of hurt Nas's momentum though.
I was still fukking with Nas all those years

Hell, my first neg I got on this site was for saying Nastradamus was a dope album :mjlol:

Reviews killed it but I copped in late 99 anyway and still till this day Love the album

I was still rockin with Nas 99-01, copped QB Finest when it dropped and liked the mixtape tracks he dropped in 00/01(Salute Me should have replaced Braveheart Party)

He definitely came back strong with Stillmatic but I think he fukked up by making that album too long. It should have been 10 tracks just like the original. It would be in the conversation for GOAT album if it was just the first 10 tracks. All the tracks that mattered were in the first 10. Track 11 might be the worst track Nas ever made and the rest were decent but were more like filler.

Album woulda been perfect with the first 10 tracks, ending with a track featuring the only person featured on Illmatic (Track 10 on Atillmatic was The Flyest ft AZ) and this woulda made AZ the only feature on Stillmatic.

What u think breh? :jbhmm:
 

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I was still fukking with Nas all those years

Hell, my first neg I got on this site was for saying Nastradamus was a dope album :mjlol:

Reviews killed it but I copped in late 99 anyway and still till this day Love the album

I was still rockin with Nas 99-01, copped QB Finest when it dropped and liked the mixtape tracks he dropped in 00/01(Salute Me should have replaced Braveheart Party)

He definitely came back strong with Stillmatic but I think he fukked up by making that album too long. It should have been 10 tracks just like the original. It would be in the conversation for GOAT album if it was just the first 10 tracks. All the tracks that mattered were in the first 10. Track 11 might be the worst track Nas ever made and the rest were decent but were more like filler.

Album woulda been perfect with the first 10 tracks, ending with a track featuring the only person featured on Illmatic (Track 10 on Atillmatic was The Flyest ft AZ) and this woulda made AZ the only feature on Stillmatic.

What u think breh? :jbhmm:
I think Stillmatic's great the way it is excluding Braveheart Party(which was removed in some versions anyway).
 

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Mic Geronimo having a song called Time To Build on his debut album in 95 featuring Jay Z (which was simply spelled JZ in the liner notes), DMX and Ja Rule. It was produced by DJ Irv (Irv Gotti)

Crazy how Mic Geronimo was hot before all of them
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Jay Z featured on Da Graveyard which was on Big L’s first album

Mr. Dalvin from Jodeci co producing the Rainy Dayz remix for Raekwon and Ghostface

Erick Sermon’s kid group from Philly, Illegal. What happened to them? I know they broke up. Jamal had a couple songs after that. Lil Malik randomly popped up on Doggystyle. I heard a rumor years ago Kurupt was trying to recruit him to Death Row since they had that Philly connection

Busta Rhymes getting out the crack game after being held hostage in a Baltimore crack house and almost losing his life

Common being an unofficial member of the Roots at one point

Smif N Wesson’s brief run as the Coco Brovas

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That’s funny. Mic Geronimo being the headliner. Lol
 

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it's hard to up the ante on obscure shyt that people forgot on thecoli, and this thread is already 55 pages

i remember after 9/11, a bunch of celebrities including micheal jackson and that guy who made family guy claimed that they were supposed to be on one of the WTC flights but given that they are used to PST, they all overslept their 8 am flight, as if their personal assistants all decided to book that early ass flight premeditated for their downfall or whatever...this was before social media so tabloids ran amuck and that list of celebrity names who was supposed to be on those flights kept on getting a longer and then included britney spears, justin timberlake, whitney houston, etc to the point we didn't know who was claiming the truth and who was just putting their name in that list directly or indirectly to get attention to boost record sales or woe is me mentality or whatever


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every time a comedy central original show would end back in the late 90s or early 00s, this random bassline acoustic instrumental would play as an outro to signify their original production...so the clipse sampled and looped that comedy central original outro for this song but now nobody can find that clip or original instrumental that they sampled, but i swear this shyt existed because the song name is literally comedy central off the strength of that outro sample





there's a ton of original shyt people sampled from television that people nowadays (like MF Doom or playboi carti's magnolia sampled the jaime foxx show) can't claim or refuse to acknowledge it was sampled because we can't find the VHS footage. half the shyt we lived thru wasn't documented because it was commonplace and we just thought it would be eventually archived by the network but it's frustrating to refute what happened to those people who missed it but claim that it didn't happen like some pseudo mandela effect because nobody can dig up the footage but half of us remember it

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hawaii 5.0 is a blend of lil wayne's verse from put some keys freestyle that some fans still claim it's an original song....not sure whose instrumental this originally belong to because the lil flip version also sounds like a freestyle







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it's still disputed how many times 50 got shot because every time 50 shows his bullet wounds he never lists all of them, and the game dug up some generic newspaper article that 50 got shot 3 times on one of his DVDs to discredit 50



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a few people claim that if Pac didn't die, half the bars dissing prodigy on Takeover were recycled from Jay-Z's 2Pac diss saying that Pac was a ballerina, etc. similarly, on drake's Back To Back dissing meek, those same diss lyrics apply to Jay-Z by saying "is that a world tour or your girl's tour" that's referencing The Mrs. Carter Show World Tour - Wikipedia Nicki and Meek barely toured with each other and that bar barely applied when recycled from Drake's unreleased Jay-Z diss.

 
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there's a ton of original shyt people sampled from television that people nowadays (like MF Doom or playboi carti's magnolia sampled the jaime foxx show) can't claim or refuse to acknowledge it was sampled because we can't find the VHS footage. half the shyt we lived thru wasn't documented because it was commonplace and we just thought it would be eventually archived by the network but it's frustrating to refute what happened to those people who missed it but claim that it didn't happen like some pseudo mandela effect because nobody can dig up the footage but half of us remember it

One of my favorite past times. A huge chunk of film from before WW1 are completely lost due to deterioration or misplacement.

In modern times, most of the Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade from before the 1985 iirc are lost due to home recording tech not being common.

They found the 1982 Footage by chance.
 

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Its like she never even existed
 
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