Things in hip hop that are so forgotten they feel retconned

[Digital Omen]

J Dilla in general. He’s revered in death but a lot of people hated on his shyt when he worked with Tribe, solo Q-Tip, and Pharcyde.

I loved Labcabin and hated BR&L. Ok maybe not hate exactly. I was more disappointed and left wanting more.
I remember thinking ATCQ gave me 3 classics in a row, I should appreciate that and give them a pass
To me the beats seemed bland, as opposed to Labcabin which bumped hard

 

[Pharaoh]

Teena Marie being signed to Cash Money

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

2pac coming back in 2003

Was a major topic in the late 90s and early 2000s…ppl dead ass believed he was coming back

 

[get these nets]

Mike G from the Jbs beefibg with tribe and de la in the 00s

Never knew about this, but I could see it happening.

 

[Sleepy Floyd]

Jay-Z being a iggety-stiggety-wiggity Das Efx Fu-Schnickens Hotep rapper

 

[Legal]

Jay-Z being a iggety-stiggety-wiggity Das Efx Fu-Schnickens Hotep rapper

Lyrical miracle.

 

[jensyao]

50 cent randomly threw a jab at 2Pac on the chorus of Piggy Bank (which in retrospect is basically paraphrasing the Nas 2Pac 'diss' saying that 2Pac pretends) and nobody was phased and continued to talk about the other rappers he aimed at or brush it off like it was somehow talking about Ja pretending to be 2Pac...also, 50 pronounced '2Pac' weird in the song

2pac on hit em up said "biggie smalls and junior mafia some mark ass bytches" but that's some west coast slang with some overdubbing of multiple 2Pac takes to make the song so people thought 2Pac said "monkey ass" instead of "mark ass"....that's why on piggy bank, 50 cent also said "I’ll clap your monkey-ass, black on black crime" on verse 1....outside of dave chappelle's player hater's ball, nobody really uses mark but rather narc or something to call someone out.

50 emulated 2pac's hail mary song twice. the first time was on patiently waiting when 50 said "god's a seamstress that tailor fitted my pain" which was based on "Peeped the weakness in the rap game and sewed it"...etc and the other time with eminem with the hail mary ja rule diss....50 basically took ja rule's style and remade ja rule songs with his hooks...ja rule's mesmerize music video was at an amusement park so 50 cent made 'amusement park' at an amusement park. ja rule's 'put it on me' music video was about cops showing at his house and 50's 21 questions was the same premise and him rapping in jail and the only twist behind 21 questions is at the end of that music video was that the cops instead showed up at 50's neighbor's house, which is presumed to be ja rule's house. 50 did a bait and switch and just redid murder inc's hits with g-unit with olivia as their version of ashanti and most fans never pointed it out because the victors re-write the history books and hopped bandwagons or people hated murder inc and then went with game to yell out g-unot when he dropped all those mixtapes with 300 bars because it was the trendy thing to do

2pac coming back in 2003

Was a major topic in the late 90s and early 2000s…ppl dead ass believed he was coming back

wasn't there supposed documentary footage back in 2003 where people were standing around on 2Pac's front stoop and driveway at the mansion that suge bought for 2Pac waiting for him to return around his birthday or the 7th year anniversary of his death day? i've heard people with camcorders really walked around and recorded that shyt and the footage was never shown completely because 2pac never came back

 

[x2y]

The Murda Muzik Movie

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

2pac coming back in 2003

Was a major topic in the late 90s and early 2000s…ppl dead ass believed he was coming back

we always said Pac was in Wayne Wonder No letting go video in junior high

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

we always said Pac was in Wayne Wonder No letting go video in junior high

Lunch table topics circa 2001 about ‘Pac coming back and would be on Detox…

Pac returning was more likely to happen than detox actually dropping.

 

[jensyao]

people back in the days had thick skin

chris rock basically made fun of bone thug's first of the month back in the days and there's no extended 14 part flashback vlad interview of them bytching about some random soundclip...but at the same time, bone thugs had drama with twista for sounding like them or 3 6 mafia for covering the same themes, etc so i guess people got slighted over bullshyt hearsay rumors back when the internet wasn't popping like that



chris rock made fun of NWA when they were basically at their peak where chris dressed like eazy e and eazy e was so much into corproate america's "all publicity is good publicity" mentra that he thought it was hilarious and joined the movie instead of catching feelings over the parody and even made fun of the jheri curl trend



nowadays, chris rock would make fun of rick ross and ross would catch feelings, even tho they patched it up when chris rock was exaggerating rick ross' life on his album....and then obviously that will smith slap...people be too sensitive nowadays when they have the medium of youtube and social media to act a fool with their emotions to make a scene as free publicity to sell records, etc

 

[JustCKing]

T.I.'s 2003-2013 run.

In 2023, T.I. is viewed as somewhat of a joke. This wasn't the case in 2003-2013. That period if T.I.'s career is one if the greatest runs in Hip Hop. T.I. spent 2003 becoming a star in Hip Hop. By 2006, he was a superstar. He dropped Trap Muzik, Urban Legend and King consecutively from 2003-2006. In 2006, there wasn't a rapper bigger than T.I. "What You Know" was a monster success peaking at #3 on the charts. Kanye had to grab DJ Toomp for Graduation after that song. Toomp also found his way on albums from Game, Jay Z, and Nas after that. T.I. also assisted Justin Timberlake with "My Love", which went #1 the same year.

T.I. dropped a few duds during that era in T.I. vs. T.I.P. and No Mercy. Paper Trail was a massive success though and 2012's Trouble Man was a nice bounce back from No Mercy. Paper Trail had T.I. setting and breaking his own records when "Whatever You Like" went #1 and then he replaced himself at #1 with "Live Ya Life".

T.I. saw himself swing between Pop smashes and holding his own on songs with Nas and Jay Z.

Trap Muzik was the first commercially successful Trap album thus laying the groundwork for Trap rap in the mainstream.

T.I. in 2023 is a footnote and people prop Gucci, Jeezy, and Ross over T.I. even though he pioneered what they get credited for and him having a bigger career.

 

[mbewane]

Don't know if it's been mentionned/if it fits the thread but it seems totally forgotten when soundtracks were big on their own merit. Like Above the Rim, The Show, Murder was the Case, Soul in the Hole, the PJs etc soundtracks. Seems like that trend just totally died at some point in the 2000s

 

[Chip Skylark]

Don't know if it's been mentionned/if it fits the thread but it seems totally forgotten when soundtracks were big on their own merit. Like Above the Rim, The Show, Murder was the Case, Soul in the Hole, the PJs etc soundtracks. Seems like that trend just totally died at some point in the 2000s

Lol as a parent of 3 I’ll say that Disney soundtracks got shyt on lock. Rihanna and J Lo was all over Home soundtrack. Sing 2 soundtrack was fire too. En anti soundtrack was the top seller of that year. These animated movies soundtrack really be moving units too

 

[mbewane]

Lol as a parent of 3 I’ll say that Disney soundtracks got shyt on lock. Rihanna and J Lo was all over Home soundtrack. Sing 2 soundtrack was fire too. En anti soundtrack was the top seller of that year. These animated movies soundtrack really be moving units too

Yeah I should've specified I was really talking about Hip-hop heavy movies/soundtracks.