Things in hip hop that are so forgotten they feel retconned

[Chip Skylark]

Yeah I should've specified I was really talking about Hip-hop heavy movies/soundtracks.

Lol oh yeah you’re right

 

[downtheline]

When Ice-T had a 1-900 number



Cube shilling St. Ides




Along with Biz setting the stage for sample clearances (he ended up getting sued by some broadway producer/songwriter ) , the Beastie Boys bookended that with their album Paul's Boutique


"In total, 105 songs are sampled, including 24 individual samples on the last track alone. The Dust Brothers produced the backing tracks with the intention of releasing an instrumental album, but were persuaded by Beastie Boys to use them as the basis of their album."

 

[jensyao]

lloyd banks wrote the hook to in da club....

The Secret History Of 50 Cent’s 'Get Rich Or Die Tryin’'

Celebrate 50 Cent’s Get Rich Or Die Tryin' album by reading all the nitty gritty behind the G-Unit general’s classic opus.

www.okayplayer.com

Truth be told Lloyd Banks wrote that hook. That whole part was a verse in one of Banks’ songs. “Find me in the club, bottle full of Bubb…” Fifty heard it and knew how to make it a hook and make it hot.

this shyt was really obvious on the hip hop sites back in the days because you can just mentally overlay banks monotone voice on the hook, but those same sites went kinda far saying that 50 didn't know how to pronounce 'fondling' on poor lil rich so he must have had helpers (but he did get shot in the mouth, so some 'researchers' decided to construct the text corpus of all the words that exists in GRODT and compare it to 50's later projects to prove if he had ghostwriters on his first project or not...I can't find the link anymore). also, 50 never did the rhyme scheme for bloodhound with those interior rhymes for the whole song for any more records after that. a lot of styles that 50 had on GRODT wasn't showcased on his later records, so idk if construction of songs on mixtapes burnt him out or he just did the shorthand song-making approach to just do 2 aggressive ass verses talking about guns for half the lyrics and then talk shyt at the end like 2Pac...the link above says there's a OG version of bloodhound but there is probably a lot of back and forth OG versions after he was signed to shady-aftermath

can anyone find the old lloyd banks song that was the hook to 50 cent's in da club?

 

[shawntitan]

Bishop Lamont was supposed to be “Kendrick”, first

 

[DropTopDoc]

Good thread

 

[nightwing2016]

Busta Rhymes on Cash Money

Dr. Dre album about the sounds of the planets

Mos Def album produced by Mannie Fresh

Kanye, Lupe and Pharrell super group

rick Ross and Birdman movie and collab album

Yo I remember this my boy was a huge Pharrell fan he would bump don’t stop every chance he got and was waiting for that album

 

[Memorial Stadium Piru]

lloyd banks wrote the hook to in da club....

The Secret History Of 50 Cent’s 'Get Rich Or Die Tryin’'

Celebrate 50 Cent’s Get Rich Or Die Tryin' album by reading all the nitty gritty behind the G-Unit general’s classic opus.

www.okayplayer.com

this shyt was really obvious on the hip hop sites back in the days because you can just mentally overlay banks monotone voice on the hook, but those same sites went kinda far saying that 50 didn't know how to pronounce 'fondling' on poor lil rich so he must have had helpers (but he did get shot in the mouth, so some 'researchers' decided to construct the text corpus of all the words that exists in GRODT and compare it to 50's later projects to prove if he had ghostwriters on his first project or not...I can't find the link anymore). also, 50 never did the rhyme scheme for bloodhound with those interior rhymes for the whole song for any more records after that. a lot of styles that 50 had on GRODT wasn't showcased on his later records, so idk if construction of songs on mixtapes burnt him out or he just did the shorthand song-making approach to just do 2 aggressive ass verses talking about guns for half the lyrics and then talk shyt at the end like 2Pac...the link above says there's a OG version of bloodhound but there is probably a lot of back and forth OG versions after he was signed to shady-aftermath

can anyone find the old lloyd banks song that was the hook to 50 cent's in da club?

I can absolutely, 100000% hear In Da Club being a Lloyd Banks record

 

[Memorial Stadium Piru]

T.I.'s 2003-2013 run.

In 2023, T.I. is viewed as somewhat of a joke. This wasn't the case in 2003-2013. That period if T.I.'s career is one if the greatest runs in Hip Hop. T.I. spent 2003 becoming a star in Hip Hop. By 2006, he was a superstar. He dropped Trap Muzik, Urban Legend and King consecutively from 2003-2006. In 2006, there wasn't a rapper bigger than T.I. "What You Know" was a monster success peaking at #3 on the charts. Kanye had to grab DJ Toomp for Graduation after that song. Toomp also found his way on albums from Game, Jay Z, and Nas after that. T.I. also assisted Justin Timberlake with "My Love", which went #1 the same year.

T.I. dropped a few duds during that era in T.I. vs. T.I.P. and No Mercy. Paper Trail was a massive success though and 2012's Trouble Man was a nice bounce back from No Mercy. Paper Trail had T.I. setting and breaking his own records when "Whatever You Like" went #1 and then he replaced himself at #1 with "Live Ya Life".

T.I. saw himself swing between Pop smashes and holding his own on songs with Nas and Jay Z.

Trap Muzik was the first commercially successful Trap album thus laying the groundwork for Trap rap in the mainstream.

T.I. in 2023 is a footnote and people prop Gucci, Jeezy, and Ross over T.I. even though he pioneered what they get credited for and him having a bigger career.

T.I. is the biggest example of how running your mouth too much can ruin your legacy. He legit had a top 5 run in hip hop history but ruined it being a clown on TV & the internet

 

[malbaker86]

I remember this!!!!

 

[Yehuda]

Busta Rhymes getting out the crack game after being held hostage in a Baltimore crack house and almost losing his life

Wait, what?

 

[WaveGang]

Lil' Wayne in the 90's. His career underwent several reinventions. First with the 500 Degreez and Sqad Up Tapes then with the Carter series. Wayne has been retconned into being a child star who maintained a career through adulthood. This is not true. Wayne wasn't a child star. While Lil Wayne began his career at 12, he was hardly a star and definitely not the star of the Hot Boys.

It wasn't until Wayne was 17 years old that he actually would become a star with the release of his platinum debut in 1999. Still, he wasn't the star of the Hot Boys as Juvenile was clearly the star of the group and marquee artist of Cash Money. Wayne stood in the shadows of Juve, B.G. and even the Big Tymers until 2004.

This sounds true

I remember a source magazine from 03 maybe 04 where the hotboys were on the cover and Wayne in the centre riding a bmx.

From then I knew he was on

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

This sounds true

I remember a source magazine from 03 maybe 04 where the hotboys were on the cover and Wayne in the centre riding a bmx.

From then I knew he was on

Nah.

Wayne was huge at a young age, particularly with teenagers, teenage girls in particular.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Wait, what?

He said it in a magazine years back I think it was XXL. This was around the time he dropped Big Bang Theory so take it with a grain of salt

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

50 Cent has an album named Black Magic that he never put out.

 

[JayBaldacci]

-Peter Rosenberg claiming that "Starships" wasn't real hip hop

-Raekwon and Nas both featuring on Justin Bieber songs

-Nas sending Def Jam an angry email for mishandling the budget for The Lost Tapes II, leaving the project in limbo for almost a decade

-Ghostface getting depressed that people didn't buy his album ("I thought y'all loved me, man")

-Iggy Azalea being on two of the biggest songs of 2014, then getting thrown out of hip hop a year later

-Fetty Wap being one of the biggest artists of 2015, then quickly becoming a Jeopardy question

-Ace Hood being asked about the police at the BET Hip Hop Awards, then stating that he doesn't care about anything political going on

-Future getting kicked off Drake's tour for claiming he had better music

-OutKast's plans to release an Andre album, a Big Boi album, and a group album all in the same year

-Kanye working with Rihanna and Justin Bieber in 2015, setting up to do production on both of their albums and not appearing on either one

Nas pretty much lied and pretended that he was being abused by defjam... but really it was him trying to sleaze his way out of his deal and have TLT2 be counted towards his album deal which was for 4 studio albums.

while we're on Nas...

The "Nas album done" album still hasn't been heard... it got scrapped for Nasir... don't see how it could be worse.
The whole situation with dating Nicki around the whole Shether saga... was just eerily to coincidental.