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Be more specific then, and dude literally gave the numbers, no you all ain’t have the 02 ravens but y’all weren’t the bottom of the barrel either, I’ll give you credit because since Woodson left y’all aint did much to improve the defense but you all have done enough to not just be pure asscheeks either

Again :mjlol:

I swear yall have these weird ass agendas. Packers defense has been majority ass for Rodgers career. 2010 and 2014 were exceptions.
 

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Again :mjlol:

I swear yall have these weird ass agendas. Packers defense has been majority ass for Rodgers career. 2010 and 2014 were exceptions.

What agenda ?? I’m a bears fan I’ve seen you alls Defense live and 3D so to make it seem like nah y’all have been 30-32 level is you trying to change the narrative, it’s been avg to slightly below, and i even said when Woodson left y’all got old quick and not many hits on the defensive rookies so i understand your point they have not been world beaters but they not Swiss cheese either
 

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What agenda ?? I’m a bears fan I’ve seen you alls Defense live and 3D so to make it seem like nah y’all have been 30-32 level is you trying to change the narrative, it’s been avg to slightly below, and i even said when Woodson left y’all got old quick and not many hits on the defensive rookies so i understand your point they have not been world beaters but they not Swiss cheese either


Theyve been swiss cheese except the two years i quoted.

I have no reason to say otherwise. I follow the team closely every year and not just stats. Every legit team they faced, 90% of the time the defense folded. We allowed the most rushing yards in the playoffs by a QB. We allow an avg 36ppg in our losses vs playoff teams.


Stats dont tell the whole story
 

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Manning and Brady have always had the luxury of good defenses behind them. Brees has only had a good defense 4 out of 19 season.

it's much easier to perform when you have a solid defense behind you and don't have to stress over having to put up 40 points every single game just to have a chance. Brees has to deal with that shyt for the vast majority of his career.



Year by Year Defensive Rankings

(Green indicates 16th ranked or higher / Red indicates 17th ranked or lower)


Brees / Saints

2019 - 14th (on going)
2018 - 23rd
2017 - 17th
2016 - 27th
2015 - 31st
2014 - 31st
2013 - 4th
2012 - 32nd
2011 - 24th
2010 - 4th
2009 - 25th ***Super Bowl Win***
2008 - 23rd
2007 - 26th
2006 - 11th


Brees / Chargers

2005 - 13th
2004 - 18th
2003 - 27th
2002 - 30th


Best Team Defense - 4th
Worst Team Defense - 32nd
Average Defensive Ranking (not counting 2019 so far) - 21.8





Manning for example.....

Manning / Broncos

2015 - 1st ***Super Bowl Win***
2014 - 3rd
2013 - 19th
2012 - 2nd


Manning / Colts

2010 - 20th
2009 - 18th
2008 - 11th
2007 - 3rd
2006 - 21st ***Super Bowl Win***
2005 - 11th
2004 - 29th
2003 - 11th
2002 - 8th
2001 - 29th
2000 - 15th
1999 - 15th
1998 - 29th


Best Team Defense - 1st
Worst Team Defense - 29th
Average Team Defense - 14.4
Pretty much, this seems like an excuse to me. If he won with the 25th ranked defense in the league, then why couldn't he do the same with the 4th, 24th, 4th, 17th, and 23rd defenses:skip:?
 

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Who TF hates on Brees :hhh: take this neg bytch!!

:ehh: The usual suspects:

Funboys fans :dame:

Kitties fans/Cam stans (His #1 Stan negged me :stopitslime:, and I promptly returned it to his Stanley ass. :camby:)

"Redheaded Stepchild of the NFC South" fans/The #1 Jameis Stan :mjlol:

Rams fans :pacspit:

Vikings fans :rudy:


possible Cowboys and/or Eagles fans :umad:

The #1 Rodgers Stan :childplease:
 

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Matt Ryan has a MVP award.
How valuable is it really? :heh:
Sounds like someone without a MVP QB

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If that overrated MAGA bum had one, you stank ass breauxs wouldn’t keep that same energy
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My QB was the best in the league in 2016; when was MAGA Brees ever?
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Its something you have for life that no one can take away from you for one

His record can and will be broken. But an MVP he will always have...


if he had one
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Amen brother :wow:
 

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Manning and Brady have always had the luxury of good defenses behind them.

What? Wow ridiculous.

Your own numbers don't even agree with you. Imagine saying the Colts were on average the 14th best defense in the league when Manning was there (which would mean that were typically an average defense) and then suggesting that he always had good defense behind him. Nevermind that the

Since when was the 14th best defense in the league good? Having a top 10 defense 2 out of 13 years is a luxury?
 

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Pretty much, this seems like an excuse to me. If he won with the 25th ranked defense in the league, then why couldn't he do the same with the 4th, 24th, 4th, 17th, and 23rd defenses:skip:?

:francis: Because the 25th-ranked Defense in 2009 were able to force clutch takeaways, while the 4th/24th/4th/17th/23rd-ranked Defenses royally fukked up at the WORST POSSIBLE MOMENTS. :snoop:
 

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Sounds like someone without a MVP QB

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If that overrated MAGA bum had one, you stank ass breauxs wouldn’t keep that same energy
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My QB was the best in the league in 2016; when was MAGA Brees ever?
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Amen brother :wow:

Drew was the best on February 7, 2010
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And thats what's remembered. Tell me 1 memorable game of Matt Ryan career.
I'll wait
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:ehh: The usual suspects:

Funboys fans :dame:

Kitties fans/Cam stans (His #1 Stan negged me :stopitslime:, and I promptly returned it to his Stanley ass. :camby:)

"Redheaded Stepchild of the NFC South" fans/The #1 Jameis Stan :mjlol:

Rams fans :pacspit:

Vikings fans :rudy:


possible Cowboys and/or Eagles fans :umad:

The #1 Rodgers Stan :childplease:


Yall started this shyt :ufdup:

shytting on rodgers the past few years
 

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Sounds like someone without a MVP QB

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If that overrated MAGA bum had one, you stank ass breauxs wouldn’t keep that same energy
full

My QB was the best in the league in 2016; when was MAGA Brees ever?
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Amen brother :wow:
So will his Super Bowl MVP


The one you win you win a super bowl.
 
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