there has never been a season in mole faced stat padder’s career where he was the leagues best Qb

[SubZeroDegrees]

hey we dont count those games where defenses allow the comeback to fail. That doesnt slide for Rodgers so Brees dont get that treatment as well

I'm not shytting on Rodgers, tho. It's the other Saints brehs.

 

[NOSaintsFan02]

Only QB to throw for 450 back to back weeks. But please gumbo sippa keep talking like it couldn’t happen

It would be a Panthers fan hyping up a Bucs QB

NFC South really want the Saints to go Patriots on the division

"Look how hard the Falcons playing for DQ!"
"Jameis REALLY ready to make that leap next year...for real this time!"
"Cam gonna be so healthy and ready to roar next year"


Flash forward to next year and all 3 fanbases praying "Saints gonna get they hearts broken in January at least doe " Like clockwork.

 

[NOSaintsFan02]

And lol at this hating ass thread. nikkas really propping up Brees' 0 MVPs to make themselves feel better. Idk who the hell @Fade Runner 2049 even is, but I'm not shocked to seee @tjax03 obsessed ass going crazy on this board tonight. nikka resents nights like tonight

 

[Maluma]

OP gonna go to hell for not accepting Breesus Christ as his lord and savior.

 

[thashiek]

FootballReference.com
ESPN.com
NFL.com

it’s all there.

While Green Bay does give up a lot of yards this year (ranked 23rd), they are great at stopping teams from scoring (9th best overall).

Oh, so those are points allowed rankings instead of YPG rankings.

In that case, well done.

 

[LastManStanding]

Oh, so those are points allowed rankings instead of YPG rankings.

In that case, well done.

Most of them are overall yards/points based, but some are points based due to the differential being further apart (example: when a team gives up a ton of yards, but shuts them down when it counts and don’t allow many points. This year’s Green Bay team for example gives up a lot of yards, but delivers in the clutch and don’t give up many points)

Only a handful of years are like that. the vast majority are overall based with the points and yardage being very similar.

 

[hotbeezie]

Only QB to throw for 450 back to back weeks. But please gumbo sippa keep talking like it couldn’t happen

I don’t even know how gumbo sipper is even disrespectful, I know I should be....

but we got some good ass gumbo

 

[Piff Perkins]

Lions fan...wish I could talk that shyt about my squad and engage in fun, competitive banter with fellow fans of good teams...

 

[Imyremeshaw]

Manning and Brady have always had the luxury of good defenses behind them. Brees has only had a good defense 4 out of 19 season.

it's much easier to perform when you have a solid defense behind you and don't have to stress over having to put up 40 points every single game just to have a chance. Brees has to deal with that shyt for the vast majority of his career.



Year by Year Defensive Rankings

(Green indicates 16th ranked or higher / Red indicates 17th ranked or lower)


Brees / Saints

2019 - 14th (on going)
2018 - 23rd
2017 - 17th
2016 - 27th
2015 - 31st
2014 - 31st
2013 - 4th
2012 - 32nd
2011 - 24th
2010 - 4th
2009 - 25th ***Super Bowl Win***
2008 - 23rd
2007 - 26th
2006 - 11th


Brees / Chargers

2005 - 13th
2004 - 18th
2003 - 27th
2002 - 30th


Best Team Defense - 4th
Worst Team Defense - 32nd
Average Defensive Ranking (not counting 2019 so far) - 21.8





Manning for example.....

Manning / Broncos

2015 - 1st ***Super Bowl Win***
2014 - 3rd
2013 - 19th
2012 - 2nd


Manning / Colts

2010 - 20th
2009 - 18th
2008 - 11th
2007 - 3rd
2006 - 21st ***Super Bowl Win***
2005 - 11th
2004 - 29th
2003 - 11th
2002 - 8th
2001 - 29th
2000 - 15th
1999 - 15th
1998 - 29th


Best Team Defense - 1st
Worst Team Defense - 29th
Average Team Defense - 14.4

This nikka straight up said Manning, , you must not of grew up watching the game from 2000s to 2010, or you would realize outside of 2006 how fukking stupid your argument is......

 

[Rekkapryde]

Breh packers D has had historically bad defenses. They managed to have the WORSE AVG POINTS ALLOWED in the playoffs in the history of the NFL. Since Rodgers has been QB, they have allowed an AVG of 33 ppg.

get way the fukk up outta here with that nonsense...Better defenses

That's impossible. I need receipts

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Lol Peyton defenses was not really good. They legit was only good when you had a lead and couple stop the run

Good thing Peyton got them the lead a lot so it worked. But if they was down and you committed to the run they was food and you could keep Peyton off the ball

 

[Tres Leches]

Waiting for the saints to choke in the playoffs again

 

[murksiderock]

Revisionist history all over this thread...

Nobody who watched Manning's Colts ever thought he had a great defense lmao...

Brees unfortunately had all his MVP-like years overshadowed by even more impressive ones by other players. That's why he's never won an MVP

2006: Led the downtrodden Saints to the NFC Championship. Same year that LT averaged over 110 yards per game and 28 TDs as he led the Chargers to a 14-2 record

2009: Saints start 13-0 and win the Super Bowl. However Peyton Manning and the Colts start the season 14-0 and only lose when the starters are pulled, whereas the Saints lost straight up to the Cowboys that year

2011: Brees throws for 46 TDs and breaks the passing yardage record, but is overshadowed by Aaron Rodgers who led the Packers to a 15-1 record and sets the passer rating record

2018: At age 39 helps the Saints to the #1 seed in the NFC. Just so happens to be the same year that Mahomes throws for 5000 yards and 50 TDs as the Chiefs also grab the #1 seed in the AFC

He could've easily won MVP in any of these years if there wasn't extraordinary seasons from other players

Did the Good Lord's work for me, all this times 1000...

Anybody who thinks Brees not having an MVP says more about them and their football knowledge than they mean to reveal...

 

[GoFlipAPack]

How does he pad his stats? He plays every game minus the ones when he was injured and he plays all game? Yall just be saying shyt and hoping that people agree with you. Give Drew his props. Acting like that man dont bust his ass staying on top of his craft. You cant stat pad hard work

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Manning and Brady have always had the luxury of good defenses behind them. Brees has only had a good defense 4 out of 19 season.

it's much easier to perform when you have a solid defense behind you and don't have to stress over having to put up 40 points every single game just to have a chance. Brees has to deal with that shyt for the vast majority of his career.



Year by Year Defensive Rankings

(Green indicates 16th ranked or higher / Red indicates 17th ranked or lower)


Brees / Saints

2019 - 14th (on going)
2018 - 23rd
2017 - 17th
2016 - 27th
2015 - 31st
2014 - 31st
2013 - 4th
2012 - 32nd
2011 - 24th
2010 - 4th
2009 - 25th ***Super Bowl Win***
2008 - 23rd
2007 - 26th
2006 - 11th


Brees / Chargers

2005 - 13th
2004 - 18th
2003 - 27th
2002 - 30th


Best Team Defense - 4th
Worst Team Defense - 32nd
Average Defensive Ranking (not counting 2019 so far) - 21.8





Manning for example.....

Manning / Broncos

2015 - 1st ***Super Bowl Win***
2014 - 3rd
2013 - 19th
2012 - 2nd


Manning / Colts

2010 - 20th
2009 - 18th
2008 - 11th
2007 - 3rd
2006 - 21st ***Super Bowl Win***
2005 - 11th
2004 - 29th
2003 - 11th
2002 - 8th
2001 - 29th
2000 - 15th
1999 - 15th
1998 - 29th


Best Team Defense - 1st
Worst Team Defense - 29th
Average Team Defense - 14.4

You're stretching it by saying Manning always had a good defense especially with the Colts.

Only reason they looked descent was because Manning would always jump on teams early with a big lead forcing opponents to get predictable. Look what happened to that D when Peyton sat out a season