The Roland Martin Discussion Thread

[Bunchy Carter]

You do know he's the only nikka proposing actusl policy options and not just complaining on social media for followers like the other cats in his "lane"

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Roland is one of our greatest political minds

 

[Savvir]

he got hillary to tapdance to a crowd of black folks...



if they showed Obama how to do the hokeypokey at a kentucky townhall

yall would say he was being buckbroken in front of a white crowd...



Is this evidence of Hillary being buckbroken by Roland?



is Hillary a c00n to whites?

 

[CodeKansas]

The only thing Rotisserie Martin is right about is the temperature he needs to cook at.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Well, since you’re trying to be respectful, I’ll reply to your comment with I don’t know if I agree with your solution. I respect your opinion, though.

See, I asked the question the way I did, because I feel we have quite a few of our leaders and politicians out for self and family, masquerading as being for the overall community. Talking about the wealth in our community is pretty taboo, but our leaders should be talking about this nonstop, and from what I’ve seen, not too many of our leaders and politicians like to bring it up. We’ve got too much data not to be bringing this up. These numbers should have been talked and talked about to Biden/Kamala during the election campaign. A rapper like Cube should not have had to bring all this to attention. We live in a capitalist nation and society. Your community is up when the numbers are up and reflects that. We need to start from square one and find out who is really for the community. If you’re not, that’s cool, but you can’t call yourself a black leader or be a politician for us if you’re not.

Idk what selling out means in this instance. This is why I can’t go full socialist sometimes. I want black dollars doing what everyone else gets to do but when it comes to us it’s supposed to be full revolution.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The black “elite” in America operates at the behest of white America, in the service of an agenda that keeps an anti black status quo intact. Actual members of the black elite, like Martin and Malcolm and Medgar and Fred and Huey, are assassinated.

This is wrong

there are levels to this you know.

 

[Savvir]

It’s not white gays or immigrants who’re systematically oppressed and the descendants of slaves whose uncompensated labor built this country.

Is this the new hustle from you bootlickers? Spin ways to excuse legislation and executive action that aids everyone but black people?

Are you upset because giving rights/help to all minorities causes them to help us less. Or is it because you just don't give a fukk about other groups regardless?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Again at 1:35:07;

 

[Champ_KW]

It's odd that all these policy makers from Obama, Mitch McConnell, Biden, Kamala, Warren, Bernie, Biden, Yang, etc were all asked specifically about reparations. And instead of each one fumbling the question or being downright disrespectful, how come nobody....NOBODY simply said, "we can't due to the Supreme Court"? That's cause Roland lying to provide cover for them not doing something specific for black people. Roland doing his, "y'all too stupid to understand" routine that most of these puppets do towards black people when they can't articulate the BS they spewing to us. He's disingenuous, wrong, and a coward. Cut the check!

 

[DrBanneker]

Start at 1:28:00

I will never hate on Robert Woodson, he is a real one. He is one of the few Black conservatives that has actually been in the trenches (community activism) his whole life and he has told his fellow right wingers to fukk off when they try to softpedal racism. Remember, him and Glenn Loury publicly left the American Enterprise Institute when they started pushing Dinesh D'Souza and Charles Murray in the 1990s.

I agree with some of what he is saying about how you can't say poverty alone causes these issues. What he is neglecting is that a lot of external trends that just don't affect Blacks play into this. Family has declined and out of wedlock birth has increased across the West (though not Asia) since the 1970s. We are amongst the highest but most of Europe and other areas are not far behind us. Scandinavia is about the same as we are though partners raise kids together more there. One of the biggest factors is while Black women were more likely to get employed than Black men, their jobs and levels of education made families an economic necessity. Family cohesion for a lot of human history was driven by necessity.

A big thing though is that Black folks were not predominantly urban until after WWII. The Black in cities before then were typically long time communities that were relative more economically secure and educated than the folks down south. The Blacks in the south were in small, tightly knit, conservative communities which often have a lot of cohesion and this helps reduce crime. Let's also not act like everything was perfect back then, just read WEB DuBois or E Franklin Frazier to see there were still big social problems we were dealing with.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I will never hate on Robert Woodson, he is a real one. He is one of the few Black conservatives that has actually been in the trenches (community activism) his whole life and he has told his fellow right wingers to fukk off when they try to softpedal racism. Remember, him and Glenn Loury publicly left the American Enterprise Institute when they started pushing Dinesh D'Souza and Charles Murray in the 1990s.

I agree with some of what he is saying about how you can't say poverty alone causes these issues. What he is neglecting is that a lot of external trends that just don't affect Blacks play into this. Family has declined and out of wedlock birth has increased across the West (though not Asia) since the 1970s. We are amongst the highest but most of Europe and other areas are not far behind us. Scandinavia is about the same as we are though partners raise kids together more there. One of the biggest factors is while Black women were more likely to get employed than Black men, their jobs and levels of education made families an economic necessity. Family cohesion for a lot of human history was driven by necessity.

A big thing though is that Black folks were not predominantly urban until after WWII. The Black in cities before then were typically long time communities that were relative more economically secure and educated than the folks down south. The Blacks in the south were in small, tightly knit, conservative communities which often have a lot of cohesion and this helps reduce crime. Let's also not act like everything was perfect back then, just read WEB DuBois or E Franklin Frazier to see there were still big social problems we were dealing with.

black conservatives live in a country that doesn't exist though and its annoying to hear them try to pretend otherwise.

 

[DrBanneker]

black conservatives live in a country that doesn't exist though and its annoying to hear them try to pretend otherwise.

Yeah but both sides have good, workable ideas. I can take part of what someone suggests without accepting their entire worldview and I encourage others to do the same.

 

[saturn7]

SMH @ this dude starting off c00ning by blaming BLM and anti-police brutality protests for the Capitol Rioters.

 

[get these nets]

. One of the biggest factors is while Black women were more likely to get employed than Black men, their jobs and levels of education made families an economic necessity. Family cohesion for a lot of human history was driven by necessity.

I don't understand this first sentence.
"Their jobs and education made families a necessity"?

 

[saturn7]

Woodson with that "things were much better under segregation" revisionist history.

The wealth gap still existed during segregations and not all Black businesses were thriving like people try revise history and make us believe. Most of those businesses probably couldn't expand and didn't have access to good capital. That has been the issue since the Freedman's Bureau. It wasn't just "the white man's ice is colder" syndrome and Black people abandoning black businesses just to buy from the Great Whitey like people keep pushing (including Claude Anderson sadly).

Ending segregation wasn't just about getting next to whitey but having the same access to resources and benefits due to us as citizens of this country.