The DC cinematic universe is straight bytch made getting a different actor for the Flash

[King Koopa]

Uh if we did get DC Netflix shows they would be copying Marvel. How wouldn't they be?

I'm not saying it wouldn't be copying Marvel. My point is that if DC wanted a decent budget and wanted to stay away from cable, they would have to go a route like Marvel did for Netflix. Whether it would be for Netflix or another streaming service. Going that route means they can take more risks, like Marvel is doing with the darker themed shows on there. Even if they did that, dudes would dog DC out for that and would somehow try to turn it into an L. No matter if they're successful with it or not.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I'm not saying it wouldn't be copying Marvel. My point is that if DC wanted a decent budget and wanted to stay away from cable, they would have to go a route like Marvel did for Netflix. Whether it would be for Netflix or another streaming service. Going that route means they can take more risks, like Marvel is doing with the darker themed shows on there. Even if they did that, dudes would dog DC out for that and would somehow try to turn it into an L. No matter if they're successful with it or not.

If the shows were great I doubt anyone could call them an L. Piff over everything, if there is room to say they were worse than the Marvel shows than you're right people would point and laugh.

 

[King Koopa]

It just shows that they don't really know what they are doing, they are just throwing shyt at the wall to see what sticks.

And this is coming from someone that likes man of steel more than most marvel movies.

In season 1 of the flash show they dropped hints about Barry being a founding member of the JL, only to not have any plans on him meeting batman, wonder woman, and superman?

Zoom in this season could have easily been set up as the villian in the justice League movie.

People have a good point about the tones of the movies and tv shows being different, but the flash show is sorta like the Marvel movies in terms of being family friendly and daredevil is more adult themed like the dc movies but daredevil still exist in the same universe as the avengers.

I'm not trying to watch to different versions of the same characters at the same time, I'm not trying watch orgin stories for characters that just had a orgin story told in the tv show.

When was this? If you're talking about that newspaper from the headline from the future, then there's plenty of time that can happen. They've already hinted at Batman on Arrow. They can easily make a Justice League outside of the cinematic universe. They just would have to hint at characters like Supes and Bats cuz they can't use them in those shows as of now. But the show is about Flash so I don't see it as a big deal really

Also in regards to the other part of your post. It's not just about the tone, but more so the budget and the cable television atmosphere compared to that of the cinematic films. It's easy to make a Daredevil show and connect it cuz those type of superheroes don't need much of a budget. Try making a show about Cable or Nova (which require a pretty big budget without looking corny) and see where that would get you in connecting them to the films.

 

[King Koopa]

If the shows were great I doubt anyone could call them an L. Piff over everything, if there is room to say they were worse than the Marvel shows than you're right people would point and laugh.

You must not know we on the Coli

 

[AnonymityX1000]

You must not know we on the Coli

Lol let me say you can't credibly say they took an L for making a dope TV show.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I'm asking why is it a separate entity? What's the point if you own the characters, and are clearly trying to build a connected universe?

Marvel ain't putting X-Men in "Infinity Wars" because they don't have the rights. If DC is putting Flash and whoever else in the movies....they clearly own the rights. So why not use what they already established? It would be like if Jessica Jones or Daredevil is in a MCU movie and they recast the part. Makes zero sense.

Fred.

It makes sense if you want to give the TV side and the movie side autonomy to tell the stories they want to tell without having to make every property adhere to a strict continuity that would never be done right anyway.
Plus DC Comics has always been built on the idea of multiple universes so why shouldn't their live action properties follow suit?

 

[a murda]

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[Numpsay]

WB could have easily used the shows to lift off characters like Flash and Arrow, lesser known members, into the Justice League universe, had the shows end, and then continue shows with Z level heroes like Legends of Tomorrow. It really doesn't make much sense to me that the universe isn't connected, and its entirely possible to change tones of a show, look at how Arrow started off to where it is now, so the fact that the tones are different isn't really a valid excuse to me.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I'm saying if DC had foresight they wouldn't have major characters they actually need to use in the movies....in low budget CW shows to begin with. But they didn't have foresight, because this "connected universe" thing wasn't a priority for them. So I'm at the TV shows and movies separated being some "artistic choice" to differentiate themselves from Marvel...when they're essentially just double dipping on the same characters.

Fred.

I don't understand what the you are getting at with this line of reasoning.
DC, even when they were talking about doing a Justice League movie with George Miller, ever was interested in having the movie and TV stuff link up. Smallville was still on when they did Superman Returns...Batman movies were still being made when Birds of Prey was on the air...Superboy was a TV show when Christopher Reeves was churning out the last of them shytty Superman sequels.
It has nothing to do with foresight. The way WB has always worked is that movies and TV were separate divisions.

 

[Czerka]

WB could have easily used the shows to lift off characters like Flash and Arrow, lesser known members, into the Justice League universe, had the shows end, and then continue shows with Z level heroes like Legends of Tomorrow. It really doesn't make much sense to me that the universe isn't connected, and its entirely possible to change tones of a show, look at how Arrow started off to where it is now, so the fact that the tones are different isn't really a valid excuse to me.

It's not about the tone of the show. Arrow is dark and would fit the mos tone. It's the quality. The main actors (Steven amell and grant gustin) are decent but much of the cast is not. Also itd be kind of awkward to have Brandon routh be the atom in th e movieverse

 

[Numpsay]

It's not about the tone of the show. Arrow is dark and would fit the mos tone. It's the quality. The main actors (Steven amell and grant gustin) are decent but much of the cast is not. Also itd be kind of awkward to have Brandon routh be the atom in th e movieverse

They wouldn't necessarily need the entire cast, from Flash all we would need is Iris, and possibly Cisco, we wouldn't necessarily need anyone else from Arrow besides Amell. Again I am not saying they should make a movie based on the show, I am saying the show could have lifted them into the movie universe, you can end the story on the characters not needed when the show finishes or have them spin off into other shows with other heroes like Marvel did with Coulston and Agents of Shield.

 

[jwinfield]

When they signed Nolan he flat out told them "Batman is completely stand alone" because in his "realistic" version of the story Batman would be the only super hero in the world. No Superman, no Justice League, none of that shyt.

So you're saying "they wanted to build a cinematic universe" which is bullshyt. They locked Batman, their #1 character, into a trilogy for 7 years, knowing they couldn't tie him into anything else from DC.

George Miller got hired to do his Justice League film in 07, the same year Nolan began production on Dark Knight and a year after Superman Returns.

DC really doesn't care about having separate universes.

 

[hex]

George Miller got hired to do his Justice League film in 07, the same year Nolan began production on Dark Knight and a year after Superman Returns.

DC really doesn't care about having separate universes.

I know all that, but one movie isn't a connected cinematic universe. And the Batman in that '07 Justice League, wouldn't have been Bale for the reasons I outlined.

Fred.

 

[Brandeezy]

there's a million reasons why they should be separate. Too many unanswered questions and plot holes. Also the quality of the CW shows would translate horribly. The Netflix MCU and the movie side might as well not even be connected. They don't even have an Avengers tower in the Netflix one. No mention of Spiderman even though he's mentioned in Antman. I asked about this before and nikkas said "NYC is too big"

 

[AnonymityX1000]

there's a million reasons why they should be separate. Too many unanswered questions and plot holes. Also the quality of the CW shows would translate horribly. The Netflix MCU and the movie side might as well not even be connected. They don't even have an Avengers tower in the Netflix one. No mention of Spiderman even though he's mentioned in Antman. I asked about this before and nikkas said "NYC is too big" [

The connection is there but not up to your specifications? Well it is difficult to do just ask DC.