The DC cinematic universe is straight bytch made getting a different actor for the Flash

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i think I read somewhere that the DC movie universe is seperate from the TV universe
It is. But they are somewhat weird about it. like the entire suicide squad was killed off on the shows cause of the movie. I can understand not wanting Batman and Superman on tv, but the squad? i've heard their logic is : if we have these characters on tv, people won't turn out in the theaters to see them in the movies" which doesn't make a lot of sense.
 

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It is. But they are somewhat weird about it. like the entire suicide squad was killed off on the shows cause of the movie. I can understand not wanting Batman and Superman on tv, but the squad? i've heard their logic is : if we have these characters on tv, people won't turn out in the theaters to see them in the movies" which doesn't make a lot of sense.
Why DC Thinks Separating The Movies From The TV Shows Is Better
The focus on a single universe of characters with connected storylines] could end up handcuffing our creators into trying to work with the same storyline or force them to hold back characters or introduce certain characters. Ultimately it hinders the ability for someone like (showrunner) Bruno Heller to come in and create ‘Gotham.’
 

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I can't imagine Steven Amell in a fukking $200M motion picture :russ: and I like Arrow. Most TV actors are not going to translate to film. It's gotten better now with HBO and AMC approaching their series more seriously and hiring legit actors but we still live in a world where most TV actors ain't capable of doing film.

You do know that Amell is Casey Jones in the next TMNT movie, right?
 

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Flash TV will be in season 4
When Spiderman appears on Dare Devil then you guys can cry.

Whedon wanted to use Loki's staff

http://io9.gizmodo.com/joss-whedon-explains-how-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-1750903535
Later on in the Q&A, Whedon gets even less subtle, stating that the TV shows essentially get the scraps left over from the films, while revealing that at some point Agents of SHIELD planned on using Loki’s staff as a major plot point:

With a TV show, you just have to... you just have to be careful. Which, unfortunately just means the TV show gets, you know, leftovers. One of the first things they said was ‘We got a great idea! We’ll use Loki’s scepter!’ And I’m like ‘Yeah … um, hold that thought.


The universe is really connected, all they had to do was have Loki appear on AOS, why didn't have him appear :sas2:
You know Sam Jackson has been on AoS atleast 3 times right? Maria Hill and Lady Sith (Thor) had major plot lines on AoS also...

Nick-fury-agents-of-shield-finale-season-1.jpg


It was the AoS who found out where Loki's staff was in Ultron. The AoS episode before Ultron came out lead right into the first scene in Ultron...
 
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it is, fukk all these stupid excuses people talking about

See the problem is when they decide to have a character in the movie they are removed from the tv show, if they are using different actors why remove them from the tv show?

Lets face it DC IS behind and they don't look like they know what they are doing with these movies other than trying to copy marvel, they are just throwing shyt at the wall and hoping it sticks.. These tv shows are doing these characters justice and the movies is just fukking that up, but since the movies make more money by default then they don't care... and you wonder why they are behind
The tv show arrow is a batman ripoff. Again I'm an arrow fan. The Stephen amell arrow isn't necessary in a universe with batman
 

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The confusing thing about them wanting to separate TV from movies is that they still go ahead and kill people from the tv show to put in the movies so as not to confuse people. Makes no sense.
I didn't know they were doing this, that is kind of strange
 

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Yeah it would be one thing if they were upgrading to established stars for star power but Ezra Miller? I don't watch the TV shows so it won't bother me but yeah if I did watch them and I really liked them I would feel some type of way about it.


Flash is the best show on tv,....
To do the same thing they did to tom welling on smallville and risk damaging the same draw they did when they ruined superman with Brandon routh.
Then, to do the same to the flash tv show.
Is why when this batman with ben affleck ruins batman and superman.
Imma lol,.....


Cast Ben Affleck as batman, breh.
Recast the flash, breh.


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The tv show arrow is a batman ripoff. Again I'm an arrow fan. The Stephen amell arrow isn't necessary in a universe with batman
Green Arrow's always had similar themes to Batman it's not just the TV show.
 

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Wait they don't have Grant but they have Ezra Miller instead??? Yeah, he's not straight but dude can act his ass off!! Like the role is good with him doing it. At least they got a guy to bring the role some justice. It won't be like Superman Returns where we had pre-Legends Brandon Routh doing a horrible Superman. Give him a chance, if you don't think he will do a good ass job watch his other movies. Please look beyond his sexuality &'focus on the quality of him as an actor.

DC is fukked up for this but, the person they chose is a great one.
 

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I could argue whether Flash is A-list or not but that's unnecessary as he's close enough for your point to be valid. But my simple rebuttal is it's not that serious. Warner Bros saw an opportunity to cash in with superheroes that could be marketed to young people. They took it. They want a more adult cinematic universe and they're doing that. I think if Marvel or DC mixed mediums it would only lead to one or both of those mediums putting out a lesser product. You have one product that tells a story in two hours and change and another that tells one in tens of hours. Continuity and creative freedom become real issues. Then a case of who oversees everything. I have enough faith in the viewing audience that they can take The Flash television show for what it is and respect The Flash on the big screen for what it is.


How, when they failed with the Kevin spacey superman and had to immediately retool and reboot superman.
Dc/wb already failed swapping out superman's in a movie.
Now, they do the same thing with a proven property in the flash which flopped originally as a tv show.
Now, it is arguably the best tv show on tv.
So, now you recopy your recipe for failure which is against movie and corporate way to go for an errant revenue grab that could ruin billion dollar a piece movie franchises and also ruin two billion dollar entities in batman and superman in the same movie.
Plus, recreate and follow missteps that ruined two properties and you are trying to create a cinematic universe.
Yet, don't use any gateway knowledge about the genre to make a profit.
Sounds like a lot of heads rolling when they look at the loss of profit and permeation of dc comic book characters.
Plus, the fact they ruined this what three times already, too.

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I don't see the problem. It's best that they do it this way bc if you add the already established characters from Tv then you have to include their backstory also which will make shyt way more confusing and convoluted. Flash already touched on multiverses this season with different versions of characters so the movie bent one of its own seems fine IMO.


No, because the tv show already showed and made value of the tv show flash as the true flash.
So, when you spin it to the movies and the fan reaction shyts on, thr movie flash being phoney in any particular way. It ruins the draw to the movie with the first confusing part when kids can not comprehend what is going om.
Then, if the movie lacks plus the tv show for whatever reason is perceived as better.
You can forget about the property all together.
Just like halle berry as catwoman.
Route as supes and now affleck as batman.
The miscast ruins the movie, in one fell swoop.
Look at spiderman and fantastic four on fox.
shyt Is TO CONFUSING AND Ruins THE draw FOR THE PROPERty.

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Wait they don't have Grant but they have Ezra Miller instead??? Yeah, he's not straight but dude can act his ass off!! Like the role is good with him doing it. At least they got a guy to bring the role some justice. It won't be like Superman Returns where we had pre-Legends Brandon Routh doing a horrible Superman. Give him a chance, if you don't think he will do a good ass job watch his other movies. Please look beyond his sexuality &'focus on the quality of him as an actor.

DC is fukked up for this but, the person they chose is a great one.
Oh yeah he is the only Flash I am giving a chance I don't watch the TV show. I don't care about his preferences if he does a good job I'm on board. I was questioning because I'm just unfamiliar with his work. You would think they would replace a well received TV actor with someone well known. I think there movie lineup can use it. Besides (Ukrainian) Ben Affleck DC got little star power in their superhero line up.
 
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