The DC cinematic universe is straight bytch made getting a different actor for the Flash

[O.T.I.S.]

grant guston already works 230 days a year shooting the flash tv then u asking him to over extend himself and shoot a movie after that im sure hes pretty tired after shooting flash

Only logical explanation imo


Gonna be weird seeing 2 Flashes and possibly 2 different Arrows on the movie screen/silver screens.


I also think that Agustin had the range and charisma for the big screen but the budget is going to be HUGE compared to the CW tv show and eventually they want Ezra to headline his own flicks.

But he has some big shoes to fill after Gustin is basically shytting on the role. If fans don't fukk with the DCEU Flash then DC might got to rethink their strategies for incorporating movies and TV shows.

 

[Ain't That Something]

I thought the whole argument was about the cinematic universe and the television as one, which mean DC is not copying Marvel and is not falling behind cuz they got mad shows on television.

If you guys are referring to the cinematic universe as a whole, then DC is definitely behind Marvel.

This whole thread is confusing

I think you might be right and we went on 2 different tangent. No one is arguing that D.C. is behind Marvel in terms of using the concept. But in regards to having the T.V. universe and Cinematic universe connected and how they approach building said universe why would they copy Marvel when trying to differentiate from the competition.

 

[hex]

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It's like you nikkas refuse to use common sense in this bytch, and these are the nikkas we have as mods .

If you are trying to differentiate ya self from the competition you are not going to follow their formula. Yes Marvel has a leg up on D.C. in terms of a shared cinematic universe but saying they are copying that is like saying Marvel copied Power Rangers in term of using the shared Universe concept. D.C. took the concept and is tying to builld their own in a different way to seperate themselves from the competition. Is that really that difficult to understand. You nikkas straight bogus when it comes to this topic

So you're telling me DC seen Marvel doing $700 mill off D tier characters....breaking $1 billion....and they was like "nah, we need to differentiate ourselves from that".

Aight breh, you got it.

Fred.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Also, I didn't know who Ezra was until I looked him up.

Dude looks like a full-blooded

 

[RajWatts]

U really think they're gonna connect a low budget tv show to a zack snyder cinematic universe

Also I heard they wanted to make the movie version of flash gay to cause controversy and generate more buzz (first gay superhero, etc)

 

[hex]

I thought the whole argument was about the cinematic universe and the television as one, which mean DC is not copying Marvel and is not falling behind cuz they got mad shows on television.

If you guys are referring to the cinematic universe as a whole, then DC is definitely behind Marvel.

This whole thread is confusing

I'm saying if DC had foresight they wouldn't have major characters they actually need to use in the movies....in low budget CW shows to begin with. But they didn't have foresight, because this "connected universe" thing wasn't a priority for them. So I'm at the TV shows and movies separated being some "artistic choice" to differentiate themselves from Marvel...when they're essentially just double dipping on the same characters.

Fred.

 

[Ain't That Something]

So you're telling me DC seen Marvel doing $700 mill off D tier characters....breaking $1 billion....and they was like "nah, we need to differentiate ourselves from that".

Aight breh, you got it.

Fred.

Yes bc they are already behind Marvel and following their business formula is a recipe for disaster.

 

[obarth]

That's why I said they fukked up even putting these A-list (or relatively A-list) characters on the small screen with small budgets and bad acting in the first place. So this goes back to not having foresight. Flash ain't some D-tier character like Jessica Jones. He's a core part of The Justice League. So while I get what you're saying it seems silly to use such a vital character all willy-nilly with no thought about the future.

Fred.

I could argue whether Flash is A-list or not but that's unnecessary as he's close enough for your point to be valid. But my simple rebuttal is it's not that serious. Warner Bros saw an opportunity to cash in with superheroes that could be marketed to young people. They took it. They want a more adult cinematic universe and they're doing that. I think if Marvel or DC mixed mediums it would only lead to one or both of those mediums putting out a lesser product. You have one product that tells a story in two hours and change and another that tells one in tens of hours. Continuity and creative freedom become real issues. Then a case of who oversees everything. I have enough faith in the viewing audience that they can take The Flash television show for what it is and respect The Flash on the big screen for what it is.

 

[King Koopa]

I could argue whether Flash is A-list or not but that's unnecessary as he's close enough for your point to be valid. But my simple rebuttal is it's not that serious. Warner Bros saw an opportunity to cash in with superheroes that could be marketed to young people. They took it. They want a more adult cinematic universe and they're doing that. I think if Marvel or DC mixed mediums it would only lead to one or both of those mediums putting out a lesser product. You have one product that tells a story in two hours and change and another that tells one in tens of hours. Continuity and creative freedom become real issues. Then a case of who oversees everything. I have enough faith in the viewing audience that they can take The Flash television show for what it is and respect The Flash on the big screen for what it is.

I wouldn't be surprised if they hint at the big screen Flash as being apart of another universe in the show

Easily throw Miller's Flash in the cut

The way the Flash's story is written, it can easily leave room for a bunch of possibilities and other universes.

 

[hex]

I could argue whether Flash is A-list or not but that's unnecessary as he's close enough for your point to be valid. But my simple rebuttal is it's not that serious. Warner Bros saw an opportunity to cash in with superheroes that could be marketed to young people. They took it. They want a more adult cinematic universe and they're doing that. I think if Marvel or DC mixed mediums it would only lead to one or both of those mediums putting out a lesser product. You have one product that tells a story in two hours and change and another that tells one in tens of hours. Continuity and creative freedom become real issues. Then a case of who oversees everything. I have enough faith in the viewing audience that they can take The Flash television show for what it is and respect The Flash on the big screen for what it is.

I agree with most of your post but the problem is the profile of the characters they gave shows to.

If Jessica Jones pops up in "Infinity War" for 2-3 minutes it would be a cool moment. Nobody even expects a cameo in the first place.

Flash has to pop up in The Justice League. It's not even an option.

So the problem isn't necessarily mixing the mediums, it's the expectations that come with those characters.

Fred.

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

OP sounds angry but I agree

 

[obarth]

I agree with most of your post but the problem is the profile of the characters they gave shows to.

If Jessica Jones pops up in "Infinity War" for 2-3 minutes it would be a cool moment. Nobody even expects a cameo in the first place.

Flash has to pop up in The Justice League. It's not even an option.

So the problem isn't necessarily mixing the mediums, it's the expectations that come with those characters.

Fred.

I understand breh, but all I'm saying is that as someone who watches The Flash on CW, I have no desire to see that iteration on the big screen, but I also have no problem with both existing. Two seasons of around 20+ episodes of The Flash means I get to see more of the lore of the character than a two hour movie a couple years from now. But that two hour movie, with it's huge budget, means I get to see a little bit of that lore in all of it's deserved piffness. If Gorilla Grodd ever makes it to the big screen, it won't be until maybe the second or third Flash solo, if those movies ever happen. I've already gotten to see Gorilla Grodd on the TV show, if only in low budget form. Both mediums serve their purpose and, in my opinion, don't necessarily affect each other in a negative sense

 

[AnonymityX1000]

People were saying the same thing about Affleck. Just wait

There's no way in the world a live action Batman or Superman show would work nowadays without it looking corny. I will never understand why you all would want that if you are really fans of the characters, Especially Bats. Just look at Agents of Shield. I saw the ep where they had that one chick from the Thor movies on there fighting and it looked like . Taking bits from live action big budget movies and expecting it to work on cable network show just isn't going to have the same atmosphere. Bringing up Marvel as an excuse as to why everything should be connected is not a good argument cuz Marvel doesn't have any Super hero shows on cable. Now I can see some DC shyt on Netflix without looking corny, but DC doesn't have a Netflix deal like Marvel does. And if they did, you dudes will call DC out IMMEDIATELY for copying Marvel

Hell, I'm 90% sure that if we get a version of Bats in the show Gotham it will be an early pre-Batman version and breh dons the mask at the very end of the series. CW's Flash is pushing the bounderies of special effects with a small budget and as good as it looks, it definitely fails (and should) in comparison to the movies on the big screen.

And don't get me started on a Supes on the small screen. I've seen enough of Supergirl already to know that shyt would look corny af.

On another note, imagine a Green Lantern Corps television series with a decent sized budget . They can do a lot with that.

Uh if we did get DC Netflix shows they would be copying Marvel. How wouldn't they be?
Like I said I don't watch any network comic book TV shows so I don't care, I'm only checking for the movies. The thread was started by someone wishing TV Flash was in the movies. So obviously it isn't a universal thought the two universes should be separated as far as the DCU.

 

[5n0man]

It just shows that they don't really know what they are doing, they are just throwing shyt at the wall to see what sticks.

And this is coming from someone that likes man of steel more than most marvel movies.

In season 1 of the flash show they dropped hints about Barry being a founding member of the JL, only to not have any plans on him meeting batman, wonder woman, and superman?

Zoom in this season could have easily been set up as the villian in the justice League movie.

People have a good point about the tones of the movies and tv shows being different, but the flash show is sorta like the Marvel movies in terms of being family friendly and daredevil is more adult themed like the dc movies but daredevil still exist in the same universe as the avengers.

I'm not trying to watch to different versions of the same characters at the same time, I'm not trying watch orgin stories for characters that just had a orgin story told in the tv show.

 

[Monoblock]

I don't see the problem. It's best that they do it this way bc if you add the already established characters from Tv then you have to include their backstory also which will make shyt way more confusing and convoluted. Flash already touched on multiverses this season with different versions of characters so the movie bent one of its own seems fine IMO.