Tariq & Akademiks Arguing Over Origins of Hip Hop

[King]

That’s a damn lie.

 

[King]

Tbf I think @Houston911 is fba and has spoke against bs before

And I’ve been banned for speaking out against this BS many times. I ain’t saying shyt that can’t be verified.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

And I’ve been banned for speaking out against this BS many times. I ain’t saying shyt that can’t be verified.

What is it you want to say?

kool herk - blk american
akademiks - blk american
hip hop - started in ny

what is the issue?

 

[K.O.N.Y]

1936

what is this supposed to prove

Early southern gospel hymns, where rapping first came into being, outdate this

 

[K.O.N.Y]

The more accurate statement is. Most the pioneers of hip hop culture, are of Caribbean descent.

there are only three

 

[Killer Instinct]

Black Americans really aren't allowed to have shyt. Like, the mere notion of it legitimately bothers people. If it's not white people, it's your cousin from across the sea. There isn't another group on planet earth that inspires this sort of insecurity in others. It's bizarre.

 

[TripleAgent]

The more accurate statement is. Most the pioneers of hip hop culture, are of Caribbean descent.

Who is besides Herc?

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

Also why is a person not from the east coast giving his opinion. Don’t understand how someone from the other side of this country is giving akademiks a man from NJ a hip hop history lesson on a region that he’s from.

Imagine a FBA New Yorker going to Califnornia and giving some cali nikka G funk lessons and saying he can do that cause the Cali nikka is Belizean…

Ak was born in another country

 

[Uncouth Savage]

Ak was born in another country

he does no music on where he from
talks nothing about the place
does not speak patois
is a dj and only does hip hop

at what point does he become blk american?
20, 30, 40 years or never?

as Kool Herc
who was all the way into blk american culture

whats your point really?
just making sure it is not sounding like some maga shyt

 

[CodeKansas]

Next they gonna say hip hop was created in louisana and that nas stole his hole style from master p....it started in the bronx and kool herc the godfather of this shyt.

i think your confusing my statement

HipHop origins was created in the Soundview section with the whole Black Spades movement : Herc sister attended a Soundview party/bash sometime in ‘72
thereafter she told her younger brother about what she heard & what she saw … and as they say ‘the rest is history‘ them being Jamaican has nothing to do with anything


with that said - i’ll alwayz give Herc his rightfully status of the godfather of the culture

When that gatekeeping backfires.

Glad Tariq is getting out there and setting the...record straight.

@IllmaticDelta has apparently been fighting this battle on this board for years. Man definitely deserves his flowers.

 

[Flawdaboi]

Just the video I was looking for....

The Jamaican ogs admit they were biting Black Americans style...


End of discussion

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

he does no music on where he from
talks nothing about the place
does not speak patois
is a dj and only does hip hop

at what point does he become blk american?
20, 30, 40 years or never?

as Kool Herc
who was all the way into blk american culture

whats your point really?
just making sure it is not sounding like some maga shyt

I'm just saying how can you discount Tariq's opinions for not being from NY when Ak is from another country and lived in Jersey? Also, he's far younger than Tariq.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

To examine this

Tariq gave him 2 hour sonning

Where’s the interview

 

[Uncouth Savage]

I'm just saying how can you discount Tariq's opinions for not being from NY when Ak is from another country and lived in Jersey? Also, he's far younger than Tariq.

Ak LIVES AND BREATHES HIP HOP
that is what he is into
that is what he studies
all day every day

if you ask any Caribbean person they will say Akademiks is blk american
much as I would suspect everybody who knew Kook Herc when he was throwing parties
blk american culture is their culture
what they live every single day

these guys like Tariq are looking for a fight
and nobody is fighting with them
herc is blk american
akademiks is blk american

what else is there to discuss

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

Ak LIVES AND BREATHES HIP HOP
that is what he is into
that is what he studies
all day every day

if you ask any Caribbean person they will say Akademiks is blk american
much as I would suspect everybody who knew Kook Herc when he was throwing parties
blk american culture is their culture
what they live every single day

these guys like Tariq are looking for a fight
and nobody is fighting with them
herc is blk american
akademiks is blk american

what else is there to discuss

Sure I guess. I don't disagree with any of the shyt you're saying here.

My point was strictly from a logic standpoint. The guy I responded to DID NOT use Ak's love for hiphop as the basis for why his opinion matters more than Tariq's. He used GEOGRAPHY and GEOGRAPHY ONLY.

I was arguing that geography doesn't matter in this case.