does ak consider himself black american?
Tariq & Akademiks Arguing Over Origins of Hip Hop
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IllmaticDelta
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until it gets put into the textbooks & hiphop history lectures, people are going to run with the old but incorrect narratives they've been spitting, since reporters/documentarians came to the Bronx in the early 1980s and got told a nonsense version of
Oh geography is the MAIN reason we having these issues
most east coast posters do not give a damn
they have never heard in their life a Jamaican claim hip hop in ownership
many of these folks do not know blk or hispanic specifically puerto ricans and dominicans in a personal way
so Fat Joe or Kool Herc etc is a mystery and disrespect
hip hop is not only words....it is a LIFESTYLE
dress....dance....walk....pose...talk....graffiti....and much more
that makes up what hip hop is
and the reason why hip hop was successful is because of UNITY
hispanic, blk americans, immigrants shared with and intermingled
so yes geography matters
YES
and there is no Jamaican that would disagree
he has probably been called "yankee" (not a offensive word) a million times
Amo Husserl
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If you're taking scat singing, jazz, out of the rhythmic language and history of hip-hop; delusional. I've noticed the only point of argument is the introduction of sound systems via Kool Herc, there was a post here about a number of DJs before Kool Herc came on the scene. Taking music curriculum out of the schools is another huge point that gets lost in the creation of hip-hop discussion. I'd be more accepting if Jamaicans called it Pan-African, but to claim THEY invented it...
Easy, that's how FBA/ADOS culture has been appropriated on a mass level. He's a Jamaican first and foremost. Hip-hop is damn near a Pan-African artistic expression primarily spurred by FBA/ADOS efforts, given the location with New York being what it was at the time and musical tradition of FBA/ADOS in the state. The addition of Jamaicans and other West Indians in its proliferation, innovation and popularization is undeniable but don't assign dude to an ethnic group he's not a part of just because of culture.
Formerly Black Trash
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AK doesn't claim Black American
He sits on Black Americans
The fukk are you talking about?
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IllmaticDelta
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smh
he would say he born in Jamaica
his culture, way of life, and EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM is blk american
blk american culture is all he has known
nah, they're jamaican-americans
in the strictest sense as in being born there
NOTHING about them as they are is of that culture
anybody from the east coast would tell you that
any caribbean person would tell you that
herc could have played calypso, ska, reggae dub
he concentrated on disco and hip hop
his whole lifestyle was bronx blk american
ak the same
IllmaticDelta
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culturally this is true but he's still ethnically Jamaican
IllmaticDelta
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I'm from rom NY...I have aunts and uncles who are half jamaican and have friends that are jamaican: straight from the islands (but been here for a long time) and ones that were born in the USA. The ones that were born in the USA aren't denied of their Jamaican heritage by the ones who were born on the Island. They might get teased for being "Jamerican" but that doesn't mean they went from being jamaican-american to african-american
I'm from rom NY...I have aunts and uncles who are half jamaican and have friends that are jamaican: straight from the islands (but been here for a long time) and ones that were born in the USA. The ones that were born in the USA aren't denied of their Jamaican heritage by the ones who were born on the Island. They might get teased for being "Jamerican" but that doesn't mean they went from being jamaican-american to african-american
you know it is much more than that....
depending on if one came here as a baby, born here, teenager, or adult....
baby and teen is what is important here....
kindergarthen, middle school, high school, college
the FULL blk american experience
now they have a choice like mixed raced kids to stick to one or the other or both
it can get complicated depending on the state they in, parents, economic situation
if you can no longer talk patois
do not listen steretotypical music from where you supposed to be from
whole mindset is blk american
of course one would not be denied and thrown away
you know we do not operate like that
yet YOU KNOW that nobody would describe Akademiks as being yaadman
Are you Jamaican?
yeah what happen?
Not know Hip-Hop's actual origins