Tariq & Akademiks Arguing Over Origins of Hip Hop

[Stick Up Kid]

Who is besides Herc?

there are only three

Kool Herc - Jamaican
Doug E Fresh - Barbados
Grandmaster Flowers - Jamaica
Kings Charles (Jamaica)
Grandmaster Flash (Barbados)
Kid Creole - Jamaica
Afrika Bambatta and the Zulu Nation - Jamaica
Kurtis Blow - Barbados
DJ Disco Wiz -(started the Force Team with Grandmaster Caz)
Melle Mele (Barbados)
Rock Steady Crew

then later on you got the KRS One, Slick Rick, Biggie, Grand Puba's etc of the world

 

[Uncouth Savage]

Live and breathe Hip-Hop Not know Hip-Hop's actual origins

just as Tariq
I would not put much faith in Akademiks opinion

whether they believe it or not
the opinions are meant to cause discussion/friction

 

[Whogivesafuck]

Kool Herc - Jamaican
Doug E Fresh - Barbados
Grandmaster Flowers - Jamaica
Kings Charles (Jamaica)
Grandmaster Flash (Barbados)
Kid Creole - Jamaica
Afrika Bambatta and the Zulu Nation - Jamaica
Kurtis Blow - Barbados
DJ Disco Wiz -(started the Force Team with Grandmaster Caz)
Melle Mele (Barbados)
Rock Steady Crew

then later on you got the KRS One, Slick Rick, Biggie, Grand Puba's etc of the world

Grandmaster Flowers is AA from Farragut houses in Brooklyn. He Dj the west Indian parade one year but that is it.

 

[HandyWithTheSteel]

Rapping before color TV. Pay homage and stop trying to hijack our culture

The main dude spittin has an accent tho.

Matter of fact, he sounds like he might be Jamaican.

 

[Neuromancer]

culturally this is true but he's still ethnically Jamaican

Yes of course but we know where he draws his inspiration from.

 

[O.G.B]

What is it you want to say?

kool herk - blk american
akademiks - blk american
hip hop - started in ny

what is the issue?

Ak LIVES AND BREATHES HIP HOP
that is what he is into
that is what he studies
all day every day

if you ask any Caribbean person they will say Akademiks is blk american
much as I would suspect everybody who knew Kook Herc when he was throwing parties
blk american culture is their culture
what they live every single day

these guys like Tariq are looking for a fight
and nobody is fighting with them
herc is blk american
akademiks is blk american

what else is there to discuss

smh
he would say he born in Jamaica
his culture, way of life, and EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM is blk american
blk american culture is all he has known

in the strictest sense as in being born there
NOTHING about them as they are is of that culture

anybody from the east coast would tell you that
any caribbean person would tell you that

herc could have played calypso, ska, reggae dub
he concentrated on disco and hip hop
his whole lifestyle was bronx blk american

ak the same

Are you Jamaican?

yeah what happen?

 

[CodeKansas]

just as Tariq
I would not put much faith in Akademiks opinion

whether they believe it or not
the opinions are meant to cause discussion/friction

My guy...if a discussion is based on a culturally DAMAGING misconception, then it needs to be had. If feathers get ruffled, so be it. As long as the air is cleared and everything is understood by both sides, I see no problem with said discussion.

And the written and video proof that we've seen in this thread is what Tariq is basing his entire argument on, not personal opinions. You can call him a grifter all day until you're blue in the face, but the nikka does his homework.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

My guy...if a discussion is based on a culturally DAMAGING misconception, then it needs to be had. If feathers get ruffled, so be it. As long as the air is cleared and everything is understood by both sides, I see no problem with said discussion.

And the written and video proof that we've seen in this thread is what Tariq is basing his entire argument on, not personal opinions. You can call him a grifter all day until you're blue in the face, but the nikka does his homework.

Sir no feathers need to be ruffled....
if you knew any Jamaican people personally this would be a non issue...

get off the internet and ask someone

 

[Uncouth Savage]

be careful
I do not like idiots

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

smh
he would say he born in Jamaica
his culture, way of life, and EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM is blk american
blk american culture is all he has known

He actively shyts on Black America s
He says he's Jamaican

I think you really believe this and aren't that smart

 

[Uncouth Savage]

He actively shyts on Black America s
He says he's Jamaican

I think you really believe this and aren't that smart

know any Jamaicans?
everybody will agree that yes he was born there

you have to take him as an individual to understand his opinions
he a good boy who grew up on the internet
went to rutgers or wherever
into music
but ONLY hip hop

NOT IN ANY WAY a street guy
so basically a suburban wite guy doing journalism

so let us not say he blk american
let us say he a wite guy who was born in Jamaica who loves hip hop and found a way to make money off it
ok?

 

[TripleAgent]

Kool Herc - Jamaican
Doug E Fresh - Barbados
Grandmaster Flowers - Jamaica
Kings Charles (Jamaica)
Grandmaster Flash (Barbados)
Kid Creole - Jamaica
Afrika Bambatta and the Zulu Nation - Jamaica
Kurtis Blow - Barbados
DJ Disco Wiz -(started the Force Team with Grandmaster Caz)
Melle Mele (Barbados)
Rock Steady Crew

then later on you got the KRS One, Slick Rick, Biggie, Grand Puba's etc of the world

How is Kid Creole Jamaican, and Melle Mel Bajan, breh? They're brothers. Mel and Nathan Glover. I'm gonna need some sources.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

know any Jamaicans?
everybody will agree that yes he was born there

you have to take him as an individual to understand his opinions
he a good boy who grew up on the internet
went to rutgers or wherever
into music
but ONLY hip hop

NOT IN ANY WAY a street guy
so basically a suburban wite guy doing journalism

so let us not say he blk american
let us say he a wite guy who was born in Jamaica who loves hip hop and found a way to make money off it
ok?

You're not intelligent
I'm done

 

[CodeKansas]

Sir no feathers need to be ruffled....
if you knew any Jamaican people personally this would be a non issue...

get off the internet and ask someone

High profile artists like Busta Rhymes been out here holding water for this blatant lie for years, dude.

You say any Jamaican I knew personally wouldn't hold the same opinion? That's fine.

Tell the ones YOU know to shout Busta's fat asparagus eating ass down, then.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

You're not intelligent
I'm done

You have been disarmed
your hate has been neutralised
All hail Caesar