Only PG Better Than Kyrie Irving

[NYC Rebel]

KYRIE REMINDS ME OF A MINI KOBE WITH BETTER HANDLES.


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He reminds me of Zeke but not as great a passer.

 

[mastermind]

He's like a refined version of Gilbert Arenas.

I can see this, but Gil Dawg was a fukking ox going to the rim but he also had Kyrie's craftiness.

Kyrie's handles are better tho.

 

[Jerz-2]

Man, John Wall SERIOUSLY gets unfair criticism on the reg.

I mean, criticizing his perimeter shot is a LEGIT criticism. But that's something that can be improved if he works at it, that's not really a "deficiency" unless he doesn't show improvement over time.

For another...wouldn't it be MORE fair to criticize his game AFTER you give him good players to play WITH?:

But this is also an indictment on the supporting casts that have been put around him. Point guards don't make decisions in a vacuum. They need space to see the floor. They need supporting players that amplify their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. Without those things, any young point guard will struggle to develop proper decision-making skills. You aren't just born with a high basketball IQ. It needs to be cultivated with the right surrounding mix.

In Wall's case, one would think that spacing and perimeter shooting would be the best way to amplify his quickness and minimize his poor shooting. Instead, the Wizards have consistently surrounded Wall with a weird mix of talent without an identity. Wall had by far the most assists to corner three-point shooters last season; why haven't the Wizards signed an elite corner three-point shooter? (They traded their best one in Nick Young and let their second-best, Roger Mason, go in free agency). Wall likes to run and find shooters spotting up; why haven't the Wizards studied which players hit the most transition threes and pursued them in free agency? (Marco Belinelli is starring for Chicago; he'd have been a nice, cheap addition). Why haven't the Wizards tried to find a stretch 4 instead of hoping their big men can hit enough mid-range jumpers to get by? Why are they running a post-heavy and baseline-screen offensive system when Wall is a poor off-ball player?

^^THOSE are good points.

I remember when people said Jrue Holiday wasn't going to get any better, and he's on his way to becoming a top PG in the league. It's not like players don't improve, especially those who are still in the infancy stages of their careers.

What are critics gonna say once Wall learns how to hit that outside jumper?

 

[beenz]

is kyrie even a PG? he scores a lot and his assist #'s are not good at all.

 

[mastermind]

No love for Jrue?

he should be in the ASG ove Kyrie, imo.

The first time I saw took notice of Jrue was his defense on Wall back in Wall's rookie year. I was at the game, and I saw this dude give Wall all types of problems and running the 76ers offense to precision. I been fukking with Jrue since that day and he has gotten a lot better.

 

[Jerz-2]

he should be in the ASG ove Kyrie, imo.

The first time I saw took notice of Jrue was his defense on Wall back in Wall's rookie year. I was at the game, and I saw this dude give Wall all types of problems and running the 76ers offense to precision. I been fukking with Jrue since that day and he has gotten a lot better.

He's having a great year and has emerged as THE leader on that team...and his defense is fabulous.

 

[McPiff]

No love for Jrue?

Jrue is slowly becoming one of my favorite player in the league.

he should be in the discussion imo

 

[GoldenGlove]

John Wall >

Looks like Wall gettin' comfortable with his shot, only thing irving better @ is scoring... If Wall had a jumpshot this thread wouldn't even have been made.

No it doesn't.

I've watched all the games he's played since coming back and he probably hit 1 shot beyond 16 feet.

Teams still sag off of him and dare him to shoot. If he gets a jumper though, he will be lethal.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Holiday is nice. One of the better defenders at his position. Improved his shot over the years, and he's good at getting to the rack. And he's getting 9 per game on a Philly team that isn't necessarily stacked with offensive weapons.

He's played the best D on D. Rose that I've seen thus far as well.

 

[mastermind]

No it doesn't.

I've watched all the games he's played since coming back and he probably hit 1 shot beyond 16 feet.

Teams still sag off of him and dare him to shoot. If he gets a jumper though, he will be lethal.

he has hit about 4

I wont comment on the number of attempts its taken tho

if Wall can just develop a reliable 15 footer, I will be pleased

 

[SubLyminalz]

Jrue is slowly becoming one of my favorite player in the league.

he should be in the discussion imo

i been saying this for 2-3 since the days.


jrue dosent get that much love on here.

 

[OG Talk]

he has hit about 4

I wont comment on the number of attempts its taken tho

if Wall can just develop a reliable 15 footer, I will be pleased

It's actually easier to develop a consistent shot from 20 feet and out than 15...

The fact that he has one of the greatest mid range shooting PG's in league history on his staff (Cassell) and still hasn't shown improvement isn't a great sign..

 

[TheNig]

Can't wait til March so the best PG in the league can take his spot back.

 

[Walt]

One of the most exciting players to watch in the league. But a top 2 point guard? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Hammer]

Great insight

just a cool story i thought