Only PG Better Than Kyrie Irving

[GoldenGlove]

i'm sorry. is derrick rose a beast on defense? why his steals totals look like his shooting percentage when bron guarded him in the 2011 playoffs?

i'm not explaining anything. we all know the stats and the circumstances. the rest is bias. i'll go with kyrie. you go with your guy. we'll leave it there.

In his 3rd year? Yes Rose was a BEAST on defense. Rose is one of the best on ball defenders at the PG position easily. His steal numbers aren't high but he keeps his man in front of him and contests their shots.

In his MVP campaign year, D. Rose had more blocks over the season than Lebron James (who's ironically known for his chase down block).

Rose D at the PG position is elite status. He doesn't gamble for steals like Russel or Rondo. Kyrie's D at this point is a fukking joke in comparison.

EDIT: And I'm not surprised that nikka @god shamgod dapped your post. Now the both of you can come and explain your reasoning for why Rose is on par with Kyrie defensively and not a great defender.

 

[OG Talk]

ROSE WAS THE BEST PLAYER OF THE 2010-11 SEASON.
THE nikka WAS BALLING NIGHT AFTER NIGHT,
WINNING BIG GAME AFTER BIG GAME,
HITTING BIG SHOT AFTER BIG SHOT,
WHILE BRON HAD 2 STARS AND WAS STILL CHOKING IN BIG GAMES,
GOT SWEPT BY THE BULLS
SO ROSE GOT THE MVP, AND nikkaS HAD SOMETHING TO STAND ON.

KYRIE ON THE OTHER HAND HAS WON 26 GAMES IN HIS CAREER.
WHO WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT ARGUMENT?

HE'S A GNICE SCORER, BUT HE DOESNT CONTROL THE GAME LIKE THE STARS DO YET.


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Rose has never at any point in his life been better than LeBron....But you're right... Atleast with the MVP and a playoff appearence he had a resume..

Kyrie needs to atleast prove he can take his team to an 8th seed before he is allowed in the building, and win a 7 game series before he can have a seat at the table..

This Cavs team is terrible..Not just average or weak...They are trash... Barely a level above the Wizards...They haven't shown ANY improvement since he got there..They are 1-9 in their own division..

You can't be better than a league MVP and have those type of results.. It's just not rational...

 

[Miggs]

Saying Kyrie at this point is better than Rose is not worth dignifying with a reply...Thats just stannery nothing more...

 

[Basaglia]

In his 3rd year? Yes Rose was a BEAST on defense.

why wasn't he all-D, then?

Rose is one of the best on ball defenders at the PG position easily. His steal numbers aren't high but he keeps his man in front of him and contests their shots.

why wasn't he all-D, then?


In his MVP campaign year, D. Rose had more blocks over the season than Lebron James (who's ironically known for his chase down block).

why wasn't he all-D, then?

Rose D at the PG position is elite status. He doesn't gamble for steals like Russel or Rondo. Kyrie's D at this point is a fukking joke in comparison.

he's elite?

why wasn't he all-D, then?

 

[GoldenGlove]

Not going to cut it breh.

Watch more games. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Basaglia]

Rose has never at any point in his life been better than LeBron....But you're right... Atleast with the MVP and a playoff appearence he had a resume..

Kyrie needs to atleast prove he can take his team to an 8th seed before he is allowed in the building, and win a 7 game series before he can have a seat at the table..

This Cavs team is terrible..Not just average or weak...They are trash... Barely a level above the Wizards...They haven't shown ANY improvement since he got there..They are 1-9 in their own division..

You can't be better than a league MVP and have those type of results.. It's just not rational...

we know what rose came in with and we know what kyrie came in wit. them rosters are far apart.

all i know is year 1, kyrie was better than rose was

year 2, kyrie is better than rose IS

 

[god shamgod]

Bulls fans overrate the shyt out derrick rose now they callin him an elite defender?

 

[GreatestLaker]

Rose shot 39% in the 2011 playoffs.

@ nikkas mentioning the playoffs.

Lebron

26.7/7.5/7.0 on 51%

Rose

25.0/7.7/4.1 on 44%.

How did Rose have a better year than Lebron again?

Dirk, Wade, Lebron, Durant, Dwight and Dirk were all better than Rose in 2011.

Was Rose even better than Westbrook?

 

[GoldenGlove]

we know what rose came in with and we know what kyrie came in wit. them rosters are far apart.

all i know is year 1, kyrie was better than rose was

year 2, kyrie is better than rose IS

Kyrie cannot be better than D. Rose when he's regarded as one of the worst defenders at his position.

Basketball is played on both ends.

 

[GreatestLaker]

BRON SHOT 355% & AVERAGED 5 TOS IN THE FINALS AGAINST THE SPURS BIG 3...
SHOT 356% & AVERAGED 6 TOS THE FOLLOWING SEASON AGAINST BOSTONS BIG 3.

IT WAS ROSE 1ST TIME ON THE BIG STAGE AGAINST THE BIG 3 AND HE PUT UP SIMILAR NUMBERS...

DOESNT MEAN HE WASNT THE BEST PLAYER IN THE L THAT YEAR.
HE JUST CAME UP AGAINST 3 STARS IN THEIR PRIMES AND COULDNT DO IT BY HIMSELF...

I TRULY BELIEVE THINGS WOULDA BEEN DIFFERENT LAST YEAR IF HE DIDNT GET HURT.



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Lebron wasn't the best in the league in 07 and 08 either. Even then Rose wasn't on that level. Rose isn't even better than second year Lebron.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Bulls fans overrate the shyt out derrick rose now they callin him an elite defender?

He became an elite defender in his 3rd season. I remember the progression

 

[GreatestLaker]

Bulls fans overrate the shyt out derrick rose now they callin him an elite defender?

These nikkas are delusional. In the real world Rose is on the same level as Westbrook.

 

[GreatestLaker]

He became an elite defender in his 3rd season. I remember the progression

 

[Jplaya2023]

Rose has never at any point in his life been better than LeBron....But you're right... Atleast with the MVP and a playoff appearence he had a resume..

Kyrie needs to atleast prove he can take his team to an 8th seed before he is allowed in the building, and win a 7 game series before he can have a seat at the table..

This Cavs team is terrible..Not just average or weak...They are trash... Barely a level above the Wizards...They haven't shown ANY improvement since he got there..They are 1-9 in their own division..

You can't be better than a league MVP and have those type of results.. It's just not rational...

exactly, a healthy D Rose on the cavs, they atleast winning 47 games.

No disrespect to KY KY however.

 

[Ashyneezz]

Rose shot 39% in the 2011 playoffs.

@ nikkas mentioning the playoffs.

Lebron

26.7/7.5/7.0 on 51%

Rose

25.0/7.7/4.1 on 44%.

How did Rose have a better year than Lebron again?

Dirk, Wade, Lebron, Durant, Dwight and Dirk were all better than Rose in 2011.

Was Rose even better than Westbrook?

for not forgetting my star player. Dude gets looked over too many times