My homie asked his girl to sign a pre-nup. She said no

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If a man insists on a Pre-Nup, he is selfish and unromantic. However, when is the last time a woman who demanded a Pre-Nup was called “unromantic”? On the contrary, if a woman requests a Pre-Nup, she is being fiscally responsible, sensible and looking out for herself. (Note: If your fiancée refuses to sign a Pre-Nup, she has just shown her hand. Best to leave now.) Why is it that a woman can refuse a Pre-Nup, and it is accepted by society? In reality, the man should be outraged that she is after a legal contract, and not love.

What is astounding is the hypocrisy of the usual reaction towards Pre-Nups. Women can conveniently assert that a man is unromantic if he suggests a Pre-Nup. After all, how can a man pollute true love with the signing of legal paperwork! However, what is a marriage licence? Nothing more than a legal contract entered into between the man, woman and local and state government authorities. A woman does not seem to balk at signing this legal paperwork, which entitles her to at least half the assets a man has accumulated as well as half of everything he earns in the future, and obligates him to support her in perpetuity in the event of a breakup. Why aren’t men allowed to note how unromantic this contract is? The distraction of bridal magazines, place setting selection, floral arrangements, wedding dresses, receptions, wedding showers, and honeymoons have clouded the legal reality of what men are getting themselves into. Marriage is as much an unromantic legal contract as a prenuptial agreement is.

Initially, Pre-Nups were devised as a way to protect women. Nuptial agreements were popularised in the 19th century, mostly to protect heiresses from marrying men who were “out for their money”. Until the Married Women’s Property Act of 1848, under English Common Law, a woman’s property, upon marriage, was usually transferred to her husband.
 

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Of course they wouldn't.
Cause it only benefits the man.
Which is why I would never get married without one. :manny:
Madonna got a prenup with Guy Ritchie. He still ended up with millions of her money. Marry someone of equal value and things will be okay.

If you marry someone of significantly less value than you or who doesn't work, a pre-nup (marriage with a divorce in general) will always come back to bite you in the ass.

If you leave them nothing in your prenup, the judge will consider it unfair and throw things in along with alimony/child support anyway.

The best thing to do is to try to be fair or settle it on your own. Or not get married.
 

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Divorce

43% of Western Marriages end in divorce, and 70% to 93% of these divorces are initiated by women.

All men should consult a legal professional before marrying, and understand the implications of divorce, because the chances are 1-in-3 that they will participate in one whether they like it, want it, inititate it or not.

Upon divorce, all assets accumulated during and prior to a marriage are subject to division. It has become, simply put. a licence to steal. Even if the woman has not worked in years, and has spent the intervening decade(s) shopping and lunching from 8am-3pm, she is entitled to half, or more, of everything the man worked for during the course of the marriage. Is this fair? How many people would ever agree to a job contract that stipulated that in the event of separation that one party would have to return 50% of the gross amount of everything in the pay packet? No one in his or her right mind would knowingly sign such an agreement. Yet Western Men unknowingly agree to the exact same insanity each time they sign their marriage contract!

“Assets accumulated prior to a marriage are exempt from a divorce”. In theory this is true, in practice it is not. If funds from an account are commingled or combined, it can become marital property. How do funds become commingled, or mixed? If even the smallest sum from a prior account is spent towards the marriage, all of that account will now be considered marital property. Buy your child a lollipop from your own account, and a good lawyer will take one-half of it for your ex-wife when you divorce. If a woman moves into a home the man owned prior to the marriage, it is not safe from divorce. If she so much as hangs up a sheet of wallpaper, puts up draperies, paints a wall, or installs a light fixture, the home is now classified as joint marital property, and is now subject to equal division. Worse actually, the man can be ejected from the home if she makes a false claim of domestic violence, physical abuse, verbal abuse or child abuse. Where is the equality and fairness?

Note: “Equal Division” is also somewhat of a misnomer. Often, she can get upwards of 70% – 90% of the assets, while the man gets the majority of the debts! She gets all of the benefits, he gets all of the responsibilities. This, of course, is just and right and is his reward for working so hard all of those years. He can afford it; she can’t because she was not working.
 

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On to the next one...

He needs to trick her ass. Have her think she's signing loan/mortgage papers in the presence of his lawyer... She's not gonna read the fine print

Smart way to get that prenup thrown out of court.
 

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Madonna got a prenup with Guy Ritchie. He still ended up with millions of her money. Marry someone of equal value and things will be okay.

If you marry someone of significantly less value than you or who doesn't work, a pre-nup (marriage with a divorce in general) will always come back to bite you in the ass.

If you leave them nothing in your prenup, the judge will consider it unfair and throw things in along with alimony/child support anyway.

The best thing to do is to try to be fair or settle it on your own. Or not get married.

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So being that my girl rakes in almost 100K a year (I sure as hell don't) this whole pre-nup thing would actually be flipped in that I'd be entitled to half her shyt seeing as how she'd be labeled the breadwinner?

Or would it just protect me from having to split half my things with someone who obviously makes a shytload more $ than me?
 

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So being that my girl rakes in almost 100K a year (I sure as hell don't) this whole pre-nup thing would actually be flipped in that I'd be entitled to half her shyt seeing as how she'd be labeled the breadwinner?
Or would it just protect me from having to split half my things with someone who obviously makes a shytload more $ than me?
If you fight hard enough for it, I guess. Say that you were accustomed to a certain lifestyle because of her income. :ld: If you make significantly less than her.

Only thing is, they'd probably leave the kids with her if she's the biological mom.
 

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If you fight hard enough for it, I guess. Say that you were accustomed to a certain lifestyle because of her income. :ld: If you make significantly less than her.

Only thing is, they'd probably leave the kids with her if she's the biological mom.

No kids, not even talking marriage at all but we did talk about pre-nups one day and she :damn: at the idea so just educating myself for if that day ever comes.

:salute: to all my Coli brethren for the education on this subject for those like me who have no freaking clue.

Still ain't budging on that "pre-nup signed or no marriage" stance of mine though. :russ:
 

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Vast majority of African American men won't make over 60k a year in their lifetimes...yet ya'll screaming for pre-nups.


Warren Buffet ass nikkas...:childplease:
 

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Vast majority of African American men won't make over 60k a year in their lifetimes...yet ya'll screaming for pre-nups.


Warren Buffet ass nikkas...:childplease:
It's not about how much you make as much as it is how you manage it. If you make 60k a year with a paid off car and or house with no kids you can pretty much bank your checks and live better than people that make 89-90k and have a car note mortgage and child support or whatever.
 
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