MEN, how do you do it? [relationships]

[Max Power]

Women are terrified of the truth. It's easier to lie to them.

 

[KinksandCoils]

I agree that no woman should be forced to submit; however, I disagree that marriage is strictly an equal partnership. A woman should find a man WORTH submitting to, imo. It doesn't mean that your opinions are not valid or that if he tells you to jump you ask him how high. It simply means that you respect his authority and allow him to make final decisions on family issues. Just like how every nation has a president, one leader that takes charge; just like how every company has a CEO that makes final executive decisions; you need a clear leader in every family for everything to run smoothly and efficiently. This whole equality thing is built upon feeding the ego. There are things that men are particularly good at and things that women excel at. Pretending that we're equally good at the same things is breaking the very foundations of the stable nuclear family, which is rapidly declining.

Not saying an equal partnership. I'm saying they should listen to each other.


Just because I say something should be a partnership it doesn't mean that I'm saying that a man can't take the lead. A partnership is where you work together and make compromises for each other. There's a difference, if in your marriage your husband always has the final say for everything because u submit to him than I'm not cool with that. Men don't always have the answers to everything and neither do women. A husband should be able to listen to his wife and a wife should be able to listen to her husband.

Say for example a married couple has kids and the husband/father always makes the final decisions. That could lead the kids to believe that they never have to listen to their mother. let's say the father has poor judgement sometimes and allows the kid to do something that the mother can see the danger in....the husband should listen to his wife. Basically vice versa.

A woman could have an alcoholic as a husband who allows the kids to go out and drink and drive etc. if a woman is supposed to be submissive than she would have to listen when he says it's ok for the kids to have drinks and go out and party.

And don't say it's an extreme example cause once kids become teens things like this happen all the time.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I take pride in the fact I never lied to a woman. Never cheated on a woman. And never used a woman for just sex.

Prolly broke a few hearts along the way but if you walk into a tree is it the tree's fault?

 

[TheFemalePerspective]

Not saying an equal partnership. I'm saying they should listen to each other.


Just because I say something should be a partnership it doesn't mean that I'm saying that a man can't take the lead. A partnership is where you work together and make compromises for each other. There's a difference, if in your marriage your husband always has the final say for everything because u submit to him than I'm not cool with that. Men don't always have the answers to everything and neither do women. A husband should be able to listen to his wife and a wife should be able to listen to her husband.

Say for example a married couple has kids and the husband/father always makes the final decisions. That could lead the kids to believe that they never have to listen to their mother. let's say the father has poor judgement sometimes and allows the kid to do something that the mother can see the danger in....the husband should listen to his wife. Basically vice versa.

A woman could have an alcoholic as a husband who allows the kids to go out and drink and drive etc. if a woman is supposed to be submissive than she would have to listen when he says it's ok for the kids to have drinks and go out and party.

And don't say it's an extreme example cause once kids become teens things like this happen all the time.

I think we're on the same page.

I said you should only submit to a man worth submitting to, and you agree that a man can take the lead. Looks like we're saying the same thing but using different language to express ourselves.

 

[KinksandCoils]

I think we're on the same page.

I said you should only submit to a man worth submitting to, and you agree that a man can take the lead. Looks like we're saying the same thing but using different language to express ourselves.

Basically...

 

[Yup]

My last gf is just one of those females who don't find any shame in having multiple sex partners because she is an "independent woman" and she really doesn't want to have kids or even settle down. She claims I was her first "real relationship" and towards the end she lost attraction to me due to either being used to the thrill of new sexual partner ever so often or the routine of relationships hampered her sexual drive. Myself, I want a family and kids. These ladies in this age are being more comfy with just being alone and picking whomever they choose to have sex at their own will and pace as needed. Its getting hard to find "traditional" females who wish to have families and settle down and find shame in multiple sex partners...

And thats what I was saying earlier some guys are way too comfy with the idea that women all want to get married and settle down because more so now than ever that is no longer true with an increasing portion of young female population. Then these same guys who sowed their oats will now want to sete down and found zilch.

Despite the popular sentiment here men want to relationships and commitment as much as women but on their own terms. But what do you do when women start to behave the way that many do and have done its recipe for disaster.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

What's wrong with submission? There isn't anything wrong with allowing your husband to take leadership under the right circumstances; of course, he should consult with you when making decisions, but a man (who provides for his family) should be allowed to sit in the driver's seat in his own household. Do you know what research has found? When a man feels emasculated, sex drive within the marriage decreases a significant amount. Women subconsciously (whether they're aware of it not) want a man who can dominate them. I'm not advocating for abusive/controlling husbands, but I think a good marriage consists of a wife submitting to her husband, if he's worthy of it -- which is why it's paramount to sift through the bullshytters and retain celibacy until he's man enough to want to commit to you by law, by God, and in front of your families and friends. If you respect yourself, then people will have to respect you! And I think a lot of the problems women face today is they've lost respect for themselves, sadly.

Back to the topic: OP, I think you've asked a very valid question. Society by in large is to blame. People (both men and women) abide by social rules. A few decades ago, it was shocking if a woman had more than 1 sexual partner, now you are considered a prude/goody two-shoes if your number is below 5 or a single digit. We hear and see sex EVERYWHERE! Girls as young as 12 are posting provocatively on social media, striving to get fictitious likes from strangers they'll never meet. Our whole society is being built upon hedonism; our new slogan is: Yolo. The young generation are getting their hearts broken at a much younger age, thus are developing the 'I don't give a fcuk' apathy-style mentality before their brain has even fully developed. This results in seeing many bitter adults who no longer believe in love, but lies to obtain what their physical body desires. Yes, these men (and women) should be held accountable, but how can we prosecute them when the current culture not only promotes their mindset but fights to sustain it?

Mandatory reading....really no need to go beyond this post.

 

[marcuz]

if in your marriage your husband always has the final say for everything because u submit to him than I'm not cool with that. Men don't always have the answers to everything and neither do women. A husband should be able to listen to his wife and a wife should be able to listen to her husband.

Say for example a married couple has kids and the husband/father always makes the final decisions. That could lead the kids to believe that they never have to listen to their mother. let's say the father has poor judgement sometimes and allows the kid to do something that the mother can see the danger in....the husband should listen to his wife. Basically vice versa.

A woman could have an alcoholic as a husband who allows the kids to go out and drink and drive etc. if a woman is supposed to be submissive than she would have to listen when he says it's ok for the kids to have drinks and go out and party.

none of that is what we're saying when we talk about submission. submission isn't bullying your wife and always having your way. submission is supporting your husbands desires and goals without unnecessary resistance. submission is behaving as the fairer sex in all instances, and not living like you could pull out your own dikk at any moment.

but really, that rhetoric only applies to black men. y'all dont trust black male leadership, you dont trust or believe in it. if chad or trevor came through, suddenly y'all toss all that independence out the window.

i'm just saying, there's more power in submission than BW realize.

 

[Yup]

@marcuz in the samw wah a that woman should support her man the man should be worth the support. And many young black men that scream submission don't know the meaning of it and think of it as an opportunity to turn their significant others as little puppets to who they can shout commands and thag crap does not work in this day and age like it used to.

 

[KinksandCoils]

none of that is what we're saying when we talk about submission. submission isn't bullying your wife and always having your way. submission is supporting your husbands desires and goals without unnecessary resistance. submission is behaving as the fairer sex in all instances, and not living like you could pull out your own dikk at any moment.

but really, that rhetoric only applies to black men. y'all dont trust black male leadership, you dont trust or believe in it. if chad or trevor came through, suddenly y'all toss all that independence out the window.

i'm just saying, there's more power in submission than BW realize.

I was about to dap you until u said it only applies to black men

 

[marcuz]

@marcuz in the samw wah a that woman should support her man the man should be worth the support. And many young black men that scream submission don't know the meaning of it and think of it as an opportunity to turn their significant others as little puppets to who they can shout commands and thag crap does not work in this day and age like it used to.

how old are you

 

[the cac mamba]

this is mostly aimed at men..

I respect and appreciate every female poster

..how do you have sex with a woman you can't have an intellectual conversation with, a woman who you can't lay with postcoitus and talk about something meaningful or fulfulling with?


Those who "know" me, know that I'm pretty open about my emotions

 

[MAKAVELI25]

I don't know how these threads get so long. The dating game isn't as complicated as TLR makes it seem and the threads are usually filled with bad advice

 

[marcuz]

I was about to dap you until u said it only applies to black men

sorry, but yall respect white men on a different level.(same goes for BM, yes i know) i dont know if its the nature of our history, or simply because they give us employment; but BW have learned that its okay to submit in relationships w/white men.

same way a BW will turn on her "polite" voice for a white man on the phone, same way y'all act in relationships with them

 

[Yup]

@marcuz why?